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Thread: Contender frustration.....

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    Contender frustration.....

    It's pretty bad when you have to turn 30-30 necks to be able to chamber .308 jacketed bullets. I am very unhappy with this 10" Contender barrel. Are they all like this? This thing is worthless. Too much hassle to load for. Spend the $$$ for a custom I guess???? Please tell me not all Thompson barrels are junk. I have been looking at others on Gunbroker and Ebay but I'm gun shy now about buying another Thompson barrel. This is very frustrating.
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    I have owned dozens of Contender barrels over the years in an assortment of chamberings and have never had a problem you describe. I have had the opposite with some being chambered on the loose side. Can you offer more details?

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    I've owned three Contenders and at one time had two different 30-30 barrels. No problems ever with any of them. I've had at least a dozen barrels and never had a problem other than they are on the loose side, not the tight side. You've got to have something else going on.

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    Its like there is no throat at all. Super tight chamber. Even with jacketed .308 bullets I have to turn necks to get them to chamber. This is my first and only TC barrel. The one round that did chamber out of twenty I loaded measured .3275" at the neck with the bullet seated. Others measured .328"-.329" and will not chamber. Cast??? FORGET about it. Way too fat. I'd have to turn the necks way down. I was able to get a stubby little 32 cal. 100gr RN boolit sized to .309" to chamber but it only barely stuck out of the case mouth.
    I guess I just got a bum barrel......
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    Like every one else the are usauly loose . I would do a chamber cast. I use a .310 sized cast in mine. With only sizing half of the neck.

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    Did you get this as a used barrel or is it new? Factory TC or aftermarket (Bullberry, MGM, etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by high standard 40 View Post
    Did you get this as a used barrel or is it new? Factory TC or aftermarket (Bullberry, MGM, etc)
    Used on Gunbroker. Factory TC barrel.
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    Waco, I just went and miked the necks on some of my 30/30 loads with .310" boolits and they go .329"-.330" using Remington cases. Your loads are just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hickok View Post
    Waco, I just went and miked the necks on some of my 30/30 loads with .310" boolits and they go .329"-.330" using Remington cases. Your loads are just fine.
    I thought the loads were ok. Thanks for checking yours.
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    Looks like a chamber cast would be a good idea. That's what I would do.

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    I read an article by Mike Bellm about all the problems with T/C factory barrels in different chamberings and the problems common in each one. I have 5 T/C's but after buying a .357 Maximum chambered by Mike I'll only buy a T/C factory barrel at a "can't pass it up" price and will buy custom barrels from now on.
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    It's quite possible that the barrel was sold for the very reason you describe. I would email T/C

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    Sounds like a perfect candidate to ream out to 30-30AI .

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenyerian View Post
    Sounds like a perfect candidate to ream out to 30-30AI .
    Thats an idea!
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    A duhh question here. Does factory ammo chamber and close? And are you loading 30-30 bullets or bullets designed for a bolt gun?

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    Or run a 30-30 reamer in the chamber.

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    Maybe I'm the excpetion but I have never had a bad TC barrel. All have been 1.25 MOA or less. Some have been....well......if I post it some will think me a liar. I have had a few really really good ones .......put it that way. Seems to me a chamber cast is in order as well. If I were to run a reamer it would be AI.
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    Try a factory 30-30 round if it doesn't chamber send it to T/C . Or have someone clean it up with a 30-30 reamer
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    Quote Originally Posted by triggerhappy243 View Post
    A duhh question here. Does factory ammo chamber and close? And are you loading 30-30 bullets or bullets designed for a bolt gun?
    I really don't see what that matteres. If it won't chamber 30 cal J words or normal 30-30 cast boolits, there is something wrong IMO.
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    Oh. Sorry. Yes factory loads seem to fit. But I don't buy factory stuff. Maybe running the loads through a Lee factory crimp die???
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