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    Stab crimped primers in LC 13 brass.

    I was reading “You can’t shoot that in a 1911” and checked Love Life’s link http://www.americanrifleman.org/arti...all-cartridge/
    Testing The Army’s M855A1 Standard Ball Cartridge. I noticed this statement.

    “Its No. 41 primer is identical to the M855’s, but uses a stab crimp rather than the common circumferential crimp, apparently to better withstand the new load’s higher chamber pressure.”

    My last trip to the range I picked up all the center fire brass I could find and found about 50 of these:
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    NATO LC13 with stab crimped in primers. First time I have seen this system on LC brass. There was a noticeable difference in pressure required to push out these primers. Could these be from the new ball cartridge?

    Has anyone reloaded any with this style primer crimp?

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    Yea I have

    A Dillon primer pocket swager is a great tool if you want to load those

    Not a cheap made tool that I have used on .....probely 10K+ of both small and large crimped primers
    Boy do I wish I had not sold so much brass years ago

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    Does the swage rod do a good job of smoothing out the radius area? I run a 1050 but have never run brass crimped that way.

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    I have done a lot of these with a RCBS primer pocket swager on a Rock Chucker press. They loaded and shot fine.

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    One thing I have noticed with stab cimped primers is swaging is the perfered method as the inital interupted cut with a chamfering tool or reamer chatters and is much harder to get a smooth even cut. Ironing it out with a swage mounted in a press gives better support and alighnment, this makes for a much smoother finish.

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    Johnch, Plate Plinker, ioon44 and country gent thanks for your replies. I tried reaming one pocket not easy to do. I will finally have to buy a pocket swager. Doing things on the cheap does not always workout.

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    I have cleaned up some stab crimped primer pockets. I treat them just like a "regular" circular crimp; remove with a $10.00, 1/2", 60 degree counter sink. Greek HXP ammo has stab crimps but most are fairly light. After cutting out the crimp, they are loaded just like any other brass...
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    Could those be factory reloads that have been stab crimped?
    I have seen R-P brass that was factory reloaded that had crimped primers.....dale

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ID:	129381A #2 center bit with a 1/4" collar placed in a drill press makes quick work of stab crimps...just completed 3K..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgokk View Post
    Johnch, Plate Plinker, ioon44 and country gent thanks for your replies. I tried reaming one pocket not easy to do. I will finally have to buy a pocket swager. Doing things on the cheap does not always workout.
    As I said a great tool

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