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    just getting started

    Hello Gentlemen,
    1st post, and looking for info to get started on reloading for my 45-70 Tri Star Sharps. It was a gift to me from a friend, who knows I have a strange obsession with lobbing large chunks of lead, out to long distances. I realize this rifle probably isnt the most accurate a guy can buy, but its all I have, so I just want to maximize its capability. I have accumulated all the reloading stuff necessary to begin. I was wondering if any of you could recommend a bullet mould to purchase for shooting long range rounds, that is somewhat affordable (LYMAN?) . Also, a starting powder load for 500g slugs. I am a total rookie at this stuff, and am proceeding with all due care and caution. ANY comment/advice greatly appreciated. Have a full can of IMR 3031 to burn up. I enjoy reading this forum, and its great to know there are so many liked minded Americans out there.
    Merry Christmas to all of you. CB

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    Welcome

    CB,
    Don't have any sage advice on your 45-70 question, but do have a supply of hearty welcome for you.
    There will be other to follow with the good advice.
    Welcome aboard.
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    Thank you Sir.. CB

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    Welcome to the Board, always glad to have new members.

    We have a good number of BPCR shooters (You might wanna post a question in the Black powder forum as that is where most hang out.) who I am sure can answer the mold question better than I so I will defer to them.

    As for the charge, that'll depend on the bullet and seating depth you settle on so lets not put the cart before the horse.


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    I've got a Tri Star Sharps (made by Pedretti). It isn't in the same class as some of the others but it seems to be a good shooter. I've loaded mostly Black Powder in mine so I can't vouch for the 3031. I have shot the Lyman 380 gr. round nose, Lee 450 gr. plain base and the Lee 500 GCFP without the gas check. I have shot the 500 grainer into 3 inches at 200 yards. The Lyman 380 leaded the barrel pretty bad with air cooled wheel weights.

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    Trapper Jack,
    A"air cooled wheel weights" is a new one on me... what the heck is that?? CB

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    Quote Originally Posted by otterdriver View Post
    Trapper Jack,
    A"air cooled wheel weights" is a new one on me... what the heck is that?? CB
    As opposed to water-quenched - some casters like to drop their boolits out of the mold into a bucket of water. Hardens them some.

    Then there is heat-treated boolits, where one puts them in the oven @ ~ 450* for an hour or so, then takes them out directly into the sink w/cool water. Hardens moreso, up to BHN's in the 30's.

    ANd welcome to the best site on the web.
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    Hi and welcome to the forum. A loading that will work with 500 grainers and IMR 3031 powder is; 41 grains that will give you about 1340 fps and you can go up to 50 grains for about 1770 fps. I would suggest starting with the 41 grain load as 500 grain bullets(using Black Powder) even at the old MV's around 1200 fps were not a lot of fun in the recoil department. However the 500 grain bullets can be accurate at 200 yards, Check your accuracy/grouping with each increment of powder that is advanced. Just for general info and comparison, the 41 grain loading at 1340 fps is putting out 2000# or one ton of muzzle energy and the same 500 grainer moving at 1750 fps is delivering 3400 ft/ pounds of ME or around a ton and 3/4. That's a lot of whomp and according to one of Newton's laws of physics it probably translates into some degree of getting noticed at the buttplate. But that is an individual thing so experiment and enjoy your Sharps, Good shooting. LLS

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    Welcome to Cast Boolits otterdriver.


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    Echo beat me to it. Yes, they're a little softer than water quenched. Around 12-13 BHN.

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    Generally for the long distance shooting you want to go with a long, heavy boolit. In the .45 caliber I'd suggest starting with a 500-520 grain from either RCBS or Lyman - the Lyman Postal is quite popular with this crowd and would be a good start.

    Only one cal of 3031?? I hope it's an 8 pounder!
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    Thank you Gentlemen,
    I will probably procure a Lyman Postal to start with. Wifey is looking for a Christmas present for me, so this will be a good gift idea. You guys are awesome. DROMIA... are ye from Scotland perchance?? CB

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check