The great chili debate of 2015. Beans or no beans?

[rondog]

I don't think ketchup belongs on hotdogs, unless you're seven.

Absolutely not! Or burgers either IMO. Only on fries, tater tots and onion rings.

[WILCO]

I made some chili the other day. Added beans to it.

[johnho]

I put pinto beans in my chili. But I boil dry beans before and add them at the end. No canned garbage. I get my beans here https://www.anasazibeans.com/shopping/beans.html Best pintos I've ever had. Get 20 pounds at a time.

[Lord Woodsball]

Momma's chili has to have the kidney beans and also some boiled rice and some really spicy molten shizz that'll melt your face off if the starchy stuff isn't added to help absorb it

[9.3X62AL]

Chili with beans or without--I love the stuff in either event. Just keep that Asian-influence/fusion-cuisine nonsense OUT of my chili bowl. One of my favorite meals is a "Chili Size" which in my part of the world is a plated and open-faced hamburger patty (or 2 or 3) sitting on bun halves with chili ladled over same, with cheese and chopped onions on top. Love it!

[texasnative46]

btroj,

Fyi, CHILI was invented in San Antonio about 1830 by the San Antonio Chili Queens, to feed the HORDES of single men, who entered Texas-Coahuila seeking free land & their fortunes.

Chili was FIRST sold by the bowl, with corn tortillas & coffee for "one small Spanish silver coin."
(IF the customer brought their own bowl/spoon, the Chili Queens generally gave the customer a discount with "script" as change, since small denomination coins were SCARCE in TX at that time.)

I don't know what to call it but a similar pepper, meat stew with beans added is NOT authentic chili. = REAL chili contains just 7 ingredients: CHUNKS of meat (In the 1800s, the meat might be venison, bison, feral beef and/or quite often horsemeat but NO hamburger meat please), black pepper, salt, hot peppers, onions, some sort of chili powder (a blend of spices) & water.
We TEXICANS often serve beans WITH chili but NOT in the chili.

yours, tex

[Texas by God]

And that's that. No beans.

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[Chad5005]

gotta have beans unless its being made just for hotdogs

[texasnative46]

And that's that. No beans.

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Texas by God,

Fwiw, I got an email this afternoon from another San Antonian (from another Texas gun forum) who opined: I could NEVER vote for Beto O'Rourke for the Senate. He puts tomatoes & kidney beans in what he claims is chili. That boy just ain't Texican!!!

LOL, tex

[Lord Woodsball]

So it's a difference of culture,
maybe depending on what ingredients the so-called chili has it should be spelled differently. Maybe Chili capitalized is the Texas way
Momma's chili is my way
Wendy's chili ... it has beans too. That should always be lower-case then.
You people made me hungry ****it

[frankenfab]

Absolutely not! Or burgers either IMO. Only on fries, tater tots and onion rings.

It's ketchup, mustard, and relish for me on my hot dogs. I only put a little ketchup on burgers when the tomatoes are really crappy.

As far as chili, I usually don't put beans in, I use chopped meat, but "I'll have 3 bowls either way"

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

In Minnesota, Chili without beans is BBQ.

[smokeywolf]

I've never made chili, but now you gents and ladies have gone and done it. Tomorrow will be my first go at making something that bears a slight resemblance to traditional Texas chili.

No beans, no rice, just beef, onion, tomato sauce, chilis, masa, beef broth, bacon fat and spices.

[rl69]

Chili has Beene hot dog meat dose not! two deferant animals

[Texas by God]

Carroll Shelby said that if you use too fine of a cut of meat, you have ruined the whole **** mess. I tend to agree.

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[Texas by God]

I've never made chili, but now you gents and ladies have gone and done it. Tomorrow will be my first go at making something that bears a slight resemblance to traditional Texas chili.

No beans, no rice, just beef, onion, tomato sauce, chilis, masa, beef broth, bacon fat and spices.

Try deep fried corn bread to go with it!

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[OldBearHair]

Way back when 1940s during the war. 14 inch snowfall, rabbit hunting on horseback w/ toesacks, no guns. Jump the rabbit, it would run a few feet, the legs would cramp. Put the rabbit in the sack. Jack rabbits could go a little farther. My mother cut up the jackrabbit meat (after my dad and I cleaned them) into 5/8 " chunks as close as possible. Put the meat in chile no beans or tomatoes. Then would fill bread loaf pans up to 3/4 inch from the top. Then pour pure lard on the top 1/2 thick. We carefully carried the pans of chili to the smokehouse and put them on the shelves along the side. When we had chili, the lard was lifted off and put in a large lard can. You could re-use it again but it was mostly used to make soap.. I remember the chili was good but not as spicy a I like now. Seems the whole USA has become more spicey oriented as time flies by. We were down here in Texas 1959, happily eating jalapenos and such until we broke out in sweat and tears in the eyes. and our next move was to Mobile Alabama. There we found nothing that resembled chili or food with spices. 1975. Moved to Belen N Mexico and at first thought their chili was sort of mild.. I ordered beef stew in a small cafe in Hatch NM and almost choked on the green chilis . Nowadays Hatch green chilis in the can can be found far and wide. Here is how we learned to make NM red chile that is a topping for enchaladas and such. The NM State question is ( You know like State Flower ,bird and such) Do you want Red or Green? That is when your food is ordered. You can get mild to very hot.
Recipe: Choose your red dried chili , mild to hot.... Use chopper/blender with a little water to a blend with pieces of chili still present. Make a roo, Canola oil with flower in a skillet with salt and blackpepper. Then add water until soup like. let it cool down to around 160 degrees f. then add the red chili. The longer chili is cooked the hotter it gets. Then you have the authentic Red Chili.

[texasnative46]

OldBearHair,

Fyi, NM Red Chili is the NEAREST usual dish to what our Amer-Indian ancestors of the SW made over 300 years ago & more.
(The chili made in TX & called TEXAS RED is a circa 1830 modification of a COMANCHE dish that was usually made with nothing but hot peppers, water, salt & HORSEMEAT. - The Comanche dish was made without anything that we "modern folks" would identify as chili.)

yours, tex

[smokeywolf]

Try deep fried corn bread to go with it!

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Never had cornbread deep fried, but I can tell you I can only remember one time eating chili without cornbread. Coworker brought his venison chili in to work. Didn't think it appropriate to complain about no cornbread.

[9.3X62AL]

Chili with beans tonight for dinner, cornbread, (both from scratch) and salad. Two helpings of everything.