Forgot to clean my muzzy for 3 weeks

[JTknives]

Had a panic attack today when I remembered that we shot my muzzleloader 3 weeks ago and I spaced out cleaning it. I rush home after work and grab the gun and cleaning supply's and take up residence in the middle of the living room floor and prepare for a battle. I was shocked when it only took 4 patches (2 wet and 2 dry) to completely clean the bore. It was so clean that the 3rd patch was squeaking as it went down the barrel. I was expecting lots of rust and a damaged rifle barrel. It cleaned up spotless just as good as new. Then it dawned on me, last trip out I was trying a new powder called triple seven. Thy claim it's non corrosive. Well I am shocked as I was not expecting it to be this easy to work with. This TC scout is a pain in the butt to clean as you have to completely take it apart then flush with boiling water. Then half a bag of patches later it's clean and dry. But this Tripple seven was amazing and I can load a fire 5 shots in a row without swabbing between shots. If you have not tryied it I sajest you do, I been playing with 70gr loads of FFFG behind a hornady 435gr great planes and it's been accurate for me.

Befor


After (Yes that's a brush and patch in my barrel. Onley way I could get the camera to focus on the bore)


All the cleaning patches

[oldred]

Try that again when the humidity is a bit higher!

[richhodg66]

Triple Seven is good stuff, I use it in an inline I hunt with. I've always used Pyrodex in my Hawken, though.

With the powder shortage being what it is, been considering trying both in metallic cartridges. Often times after our muzzle loader season, both 777 and Pyrodex go on sale at Wal Mart here for pretty cheap.

[725]

ML's ? Clean 'em, wait a day or two and clean 'em again.

[JTknives]

Triple Seven is good stuff, I use it in an inline I hunt with. I've always used Pyrodex in my Hawken, though.

With the powder shortage being what it is, been considering trying both in metallic cartridges. Often times after our muzzle loader season, both 777 and Pyrodex go on sale at Wal Mart here for pretty cheap.

I have also though about loading up my .700 *** with Tripple seven and see how it works. Wonder what 200grs of Tripple seven would push a 1150gr paper patched boolit to out of a 16" barrel.

[Hickok]

I have also though about loading up my .700 *** with Tripple seven and see how it works. Wonder what 200grs of Tripple seven would push a 1150gr paper patched boolit to out of a 16" barrel.

JT, that sounds like it might sting a bit!

[rodwha]

There's a fellow on another forum who did a test using a piece of steel that he dropped a pile of Triple 7, Pyrodex, and standard BP on and lit each. He then left it in his garage for something like 4 days IIRC, and he stated that he lives in a fairly humid place.

The Pyrodex was the nastiest and left the largest pitting. It was terrible, and much worse than BP. The T7 didn't do much damage at all. And after he cleaned it up it looked nearly pristine.

I took too many guns to the range and spent far too long there (nearly 7 hrs). I cleaned up my pistols but left the rifle over night as I had read a couple of CAS shooters left theirs for days at times with no ill effects. I had been shooting the crappy Pyrodex through the rifle that my father had given me with the intent of breaking it in. That bore was terrible and took half a day and thousands (dramatic effect here) of patches.

I still have some Pyrodex but use mostly Olde Eynsford BP and also some Triple 7. I like them both.

[Boz330]

When I go to matches they are so far away that I don't get back till late. I put 2 wet patches and 2 dry through at the range and clean the next day and that hasn't ever been a problem with BP. Even after a weekend of hunting which would be a couplke days it has never been a problem.

Bob

[JTknives]

My TC is very prone to rusting. When I would clean it with boiling water and I mean boiling poured down the bore till it to hot to hold. If I let the water evaporate off it would rust. It takes like 2-3 min to dry by its self but still I would patch it and out would come red streaks. So it's been a mad dash from the boiling water to the patches in the past. To clean I would pull the nipple and put the breach in the boiling water and wet a patch and push it in the bore to make a piston. Then pump back and forth then rinse with more boiling water. It was so clean it would squeak. But now with Tripple seven it squeaked on the 3rd and 4th patch.

[rodwha]

Use Ballistol right after you clean it. It will mix with the water and when the water evaporates it will leave a thin coating of oil! Love that stuff!

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

you got lucky with a dose of winter lack of humidity and reasonable amount of seasoning in the barrel

777 can and will still cause a mess but corrosive salts and fouling need humidity to really cause corrosion

we may over emphasize cleaning but we see a lot of good guns ruined with very little use from not cleaning

[Eddie2002]

If I know I'm not getting around to cleaning my Hawkens flinter for a couple of days I spray the barrel with WD 40 and then run a patch soaked in 5-30 wt engine oil through it. The WD 40 helps the oil soak into the crud and keeps the barrel from rusting. Not perfect but it keeps the red rust away till cleaning. Using Bore Butter on the patches really help stop the crud buildup while shooting.

[rfd]

MOOSE MILK - for cleaning out the barrel after shooting black powder - after each shot and after a shooting session (pull off flint lock and clean it too!)

1 part Ballistol
1 part Lestoil or Pinesol
2 parts hydrogen peroxide
20 parts tap water

a final patch saturated wet with wd-40 that stays down the barrel with the rod.

never had a hint of rust with any of my flintlock rifles for decades.

[GCBurner]

I use Ballistol and water for cleaning out the crud, and make a final swabbing with pure Ballistol before putting the guns away. It seems to leave a fairly protective film in the bore the next time I shoot it, because even if I wait a few days to scrub the bore again, it cleans tight up with just a couple of wet Ballistol/water patches, followed by 4 or 5 dry patches. I use regular Goex 2F, and haven't had any noticeable rust or pitting in the bores so far.

[doc1876]

you must have held your mouth just right or done something in church that made God smile on you

[oldred]

If the OP thinks that "new powder" (Triple 7) is non-corrosive based on this incident I suggest he try that again when the weather is a bit warmer and the humidity is just a little higher, I would strongly suggest checking it a LOT sooner than three weeks however! Triple Seven may not be as bad as Pyrodex but it is a long way from being a "new powder" and it's attributes are well known, unfortunately being non-corrosive is NOT one of them!

BTW, how does one "forget" to clean their BP firearm for three weeks? That's not exactly a small detail that's easily overlooked!

[Whiterabbit]

I've never seen such a small diameter barrel in JT's possession.

[JTknives]

About the Humidity being low. It might be winter but our apartment does get very humid every few days or so as our dryer is in the kitchen and when ran we have to point the hose out the window and the apartment gets very humid. We keep the apartment at around 65-75 deg in the winder except at nights which is at 60. As to the 3 weeks in not cleaning it was something I put off the first day as we had family over. The next day was Monday and a work day. And the rest is down hill from there. After going back out and shooting triple seven again today I am sold. Sorry but real black is nice stuff but I can't be happier with 777.

[hylander]

I have pretty much used 777 exclusively since it came out.
I have sometimes let my guns set for days without cleaning, never a speck of rust.

[Dan Cash]

I forgot to clean my muzzy too but he got to stinking more than usual sot I broke out the firehose and was spraying away then the cops came and made me quit