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    #4 buck cluster or bulk mold

    Does anybody make a buskshot mold for volume? I have the lee 18 cavity and the sharpshooter mold and they work great BUT is there anybody out there that makes a mold that drops 40 or 50 pellets at a time? I seem to go through it faster than i can make it?

    Thanks in advance
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    Never seen such a mold, probably a practical limit on how many cavities would fill properly. I prefer the sharpshooter over the Lee. The buck molds seem to work decent at first, but become more troublesome over time.

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    How much volume are we talking? If it is under 50# I would maybe just buy some.

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    It would be a pretty fair amount, just in load development alone for only three types of shells I went through roughly 60lbs of lead in about a week (what can I say, I love to shoot). It just gets a little crazy when you only get 18 pellets per poor and I go through 55 pellets per shell (2.5 ounces of shot/shell but that's another story)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vader View Post
    It would be a pretty fair amount, just in load development alone for only three types of shells I went through roughly 60lbs of lead in about a week (what can I say, I love to shoot). It just gets a little crazy when you only get 18 pellets per poor and I go through 55 pellets per shell (2.5 ounces of shot/shell but that's another story)

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    10GA? I want to turn my Lee into a 24 cavity. Just need to find a mill! I think that will help with the production and get better fill out as well.

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    Now that's what I'm talking about! Nah actually it's for a 12 gauge 3 1/2 in home made coyote load that's I'm working on. It's a little hot but from all my research well under pressure limits. It mirrors a Winchester #4 buck load that I love, but at 2.50$ a shot I gotta come up with a lower cost alternative.

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    This is kinda what I'm looking for


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    I got a school class that I can use a mill on might just try it. If it works I will let ya know. $2.50 a piece I can shoot my 50 bmg cheaper than that!

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    You'll need a mold like this:




    I made a bunch of different buckshot molds for a group buy years ago. This one will cast 40 #4B at a time and you don't have to fool around with cutting pliers to separate the balls from the stem. At one time you could rent several of the molds from Bob Krack in the Site Benefit Forum, but sadly, he is no longer with us and I don't know what became of the molds.
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    Holy smokes! That is exactly what I need! Anybody on here make these anymore?

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    That is very impressive, Cap'n! Looks like you've got a market.

    On a related note, I have the Sharpshooter #4 buck/00 combo mold, and I've basically given up on #4---too much sprue to cut away; just not an efficient way to do things. I usually use the 00 side much more and just do a few on the 4 side.

    The Lee mold is attractive, in that it has very little sprue, but the pellets still need to be separated. I've always wondered if anyone has tried just shooting the pellets in their triple strings, and letting the force of firing separate them. Does that work?

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    FT, have you used the 18 cacity Lee 00 mold? Would like to hear from someone on this forum who is using this.http://media.midwayusa.com/productim...373/373263.jpg

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    Have not had a problem with the 00 mold. Its just that #4 is hard (for me) to keep hot enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogtamer View Post
    FT, have you used the 18 cacity Lee 00 mold? Would like to hear from someone on this forum who is using this.http://media.midwayusa.com/productim...373/373263.jpg
    Haven't bought it yet, but I'm also thinking about it---I have Sharpshooter molds in #1 buck (.30) and the combo #4/00 and I've cast a lot of shot with them, but it's a pain cutting off all that sprue.
    Lee really ought to make more shot sizes; 0 and 1 are both better than 00 for the reloader, since they fit so well in conventional wads.

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    To use the #4 the mold needs to very hot. I use a propane torch to warm the mold. The mold is very hot and the molds makes very good shot. I use very thick welding gloves when casting the #4 shot.

    I tried to to get a mold for my automated Master Caster for a high volume but can not find a mold.

    It takes a lot of time to cast the 00 and #4 buck shot with the combination mold.

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    Next week I am making mine a 24 or 30 if there is room for #4. I'll put up pics when done!

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    Well got her done. Some how I got off a little bit on my alignment. But it casts alot better and faster!

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    Capn Morgan, If you start making these again I would really to have one for #1 buck. FB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebricker View Post
    Capn Morgan, If you start making these again I would really to have one for #1 buck. FB
    Probably not gonna happen - too much hassle involved since I live in Denmark.

    The molds are pretty simple to make and a decent quality mold could be made using nothing more than a bench drill press fitted with a cross table and a ball end mill for drilling the cavities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebricker View Post
    Capn Morgan, If you start making these again I would really to have one for #1 buck. FB
    I hhmmd and hawwd at him about this and not even a nibble. Absolutely the best volume production mold for buck. When everything is to temp you roll the buck with your gloved hand just after you drop it from the mold and it pops right off. Most drops off on it's own. Sprues are so small that they don't affect the alloy temp when dropped back in the pot as you wait for the current pour to cool. (Maybe if I stroke his ego I'll get a bite. Hey the mold really is that good!)

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check