30 carbine Blackhawk and 32-20 brass

[DuckHunterJon]

I have a new model Blackhawk. Initially had a problem with reloaded carbine brass binding on the recoil shield and acquired some .32-20 brass. That generally worked better except for some R-P brass which had too thick a base and would bind on the recoil shield. I found that trimming the carbine brass solved the problem and have since stopped using the .32-20 brass.

Got it, that's probably what I'm seeing, as it's Rem brass I tried. Thanks.

[MarkP]

I have a New model 30 Carb BH (circa 1989) and 32-20 brass rubs on the recoil shield as well with WW brass. I measured the rim thicknesses that were binding, they were within SAAMI rim thickness tolerance.


I have an Auto Mag III that had ignition issues when it was new; sent it back in Irwindale Arms it came back with a different slide. The original firing pin was mushrooming from hammer strikes after only 100 rounds or so.

[jonp]

WHY again WHY ???? the 30cal brass works WHY ??? would anyone use something is not made for the gun WHY??

Inquiring minds want to know how to get around not having something and still being able to keep going by substituting something else. Endless fiddling with things is a hobby

[TaylorS]

So I've been reading this thread has anyone tried the 32-20 cases in a actual carbine? Step dad has one and if I could get some loading done on it its be fun to shoot more.

[lbaize3]

TaylorS, the carbine rifle chamber is a different situation than the Blackhawk revolver. The carbine has a chamber that will allow only 30 carbine brass to be used (or some other rimless type of brass....). The revolver does not have a recessed chamber that totally encloses the cartridge, thus allowing the rimmed 32-20 brass to be used.

[Salmoneye]

It's what we do here.

*golf applause*

[FLHTC]

Isn't 32-20 brass harder to find & more expensive than 30 carbine brass?

Back when I tried it, nothing was really in short supply. I have over a thousand of each, 25 -20 and 32-20 but when I bought my 327, the carbine went to gunbroker.

[Thomas Traddles]

Well, I don't know much about substituting 32-20 brass in 30 carbine revolvers, but I recall running across a column by Skeeter Skelton who replied to someone complaining about the noise and flash of the 30 carbine. He suggested that the gentleman try loading his carbine brass with 32-20 powder loads. He thought they would be accurate and pleasant rounds to shoot in the BH 30 revolver. I don't recall which load he suggested. Since I shoot neither of the cartridges, I did not pay too much attention to the suggested load.

[9.3X62AL]

Since when is noise and flash "unpleasant"? (J/K)

[cbrick]

Since when is noise and flash "unpleasant"? (J/K)

Some people just don't appreciate music.

Rick

[Thomas Traddles]

Since when is noise and flash "unpleasant"? (J/K)

Search me! I was just reiterating what a gentleman said to Mr. Skelton.

[rockrat]

Or when you are shooting a 44/284 round out of an XP100 w/13.5" barrel w/muzzle brake. Loaded with 65 gr H335 and a 240gr bullet it has a muzzle flash in the evening shaped like a coke bottle 6' long. Nobody wants to be near you for some reason, when you touch it off.

[dtknowles]

Or when you are shooting a 44/284 round out of an XP100 w/13.5" barrel w/muzzle brake. Loaded with 65 gr H335 and a 240gr bullet it has a muzzle flash in the evening shaped like a coke bottle 6' long. Nobody wants to be near you for some reason, when you touch it off.

Yeah, people can put their muzzlebreaks where the sun don't shine. Someone shooting with one next to me on the range will cause me to stop and take a break until they are done.

Tim

[rintinglen]

You can tell the guys who like the loud bangs and big flashes--but you have to speak loud.

[Tackleberry41]

Maybe the issues with the revolvers taking or not taking the 32-20 cases is just the rim thickness. Its an issue w the Nagant revolvers, some brands are fine others will bind up.

[wrench man]

You can tell the guys who like the loud bangs and big flashes--but you have to speak loud.

WHAT!??
The way everyone talks about the 30 Carbine in the Blackhawk I was expecting a BIG BOOM, it has nothing on the 327 Federal or 357 Mag, I didn't take my 44 Mag to compare it to?

[leftiye]

You said that wrong. The carbine round was around a looong time before the .327, and the 327 has nothing on the .30 carbine. The whole gob of stuff about .32 calibers boils down to exactly this. Mitigated only by the fact that maximum performance available does mega damage to your game. The .32 H&R is really the best small game cartridge (equals 32-20 performance, but the 32-20 also needs to be moderately loaded) all around. 357s are not to be compared to .32s, it amounts to cheating (apples and oranges you know). Ditto 44s.

[9.3X62AL]

Hear hear. The 32 Magnum IS a great small gamer. It need not be maxed out to do this, either--just prompt an RCBS 32-98-SWC to 900-950 FPS, and the caliber's efficiency in this venue will shine. Table fare won't be shredded, but will be anchored humanely with far better results than 22 LR.

[corsair_001]

I know this thread is a bit old, but thought I'd see if anything new had developed. I've wanted a 30 Carbine RBH for years and after reading (here on Cast Boolits) about firing 32-20 in the RBH 30 Carbine I took the plunge. I enjoyed the 30 Carbine heat and flame produced, and the noise, it was a blast to shoot. Also took a box of 32-20 along for fun. 32-20 ran perfect, no issues. So now I intend to reload for them both with cast bullets. For those of you who have done this, did you just use the 30 carbine dies on the 32-20 cases? Or did you use 32-20 dies? Finishing up some rifle loads right now, so am in the process of accumulating components for 30 Carb / 32-20. Already reload for my 30 carbine rifle so dies and such are ready. Any thoughts on bullets and loads is appreciated.

[Ickisrulz]

I know this thread is a bit old, but thought I'd see if anything new had developed. I've wanted a 30 Carbine RBH for years and after reading (here on Cast Boolits) about firing 32-20 in the RBH 30 Carbine I took the plunge. I enjoyed the 30 Carbine heat and flame produced, and the noise, it was a blast to shoot. Also took a box of 32-20 along for fun. 32-20 ran perfect, no issues. So now I intend to reload for them both with cast bullets. For those of you who have done this, did you just use the 30 carbine dies on the 32-20 cases? Or did you use 32-20 dies? Finishing up some rifle loads right now, so am in the process of accumulating components for 30 Carb / 32-20. Already reload for my 30 carbine rifle so dies and such are ready. Any thoughts on bullets and loads is appreciated.

I use Starline 32-20 brass. My 30 Carbine dies will not size the 32-20 brass enough to hold a bullet. I have to use a 32-20 sizing die. 32-20 brass doesn't last too long when shot in a 30 Carbine.

I also have Starline 30 Carbine brass that I have used 10+ times and have no issues with head spacing (never trimmed). Once my 32-20 brass is gone I will only use the 30 Carbine brass.