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    not yet. but i do know that at the longest i can get with this bullet, its not hitting. and its much shorter than my factory rounds

    this bullet maxes out at 1.09
    my factory hollow points are 1.125. so i have a long distance before hitting rifling

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    What mold number is it? Sounds like it's the wrong one for your application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon813gt View Post
    What mold number is it? Sounds like it's the wrong one for your application.
    358 124gr tc

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    come to think of it. it is a little on the light side. 118 in hollow point mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mallen View Post
    not yet. but i do know that at the longest i can get with this bullet, its not hitting. and its much shorter than my factory rounds

    this bullet maxes out at 1.09
    my factory hollow points are 1.125. so i have a long distance before hitting rifling
    Suggest you try fitting some in your barrel. You almost surely are in for a surprise. I load my similar Saeco bullet to 1.045" and it's backing the round up but not out to flush with barrel hood yet.

    Another note. I have several 9mm molds. 124gr RN as typical does not set down inside the case as far as the 122gr TC. So at one time I thought that extra powder space in the 9x19mm would equate to higher velocity. Well it didn't with the few powders I tried. The 122's actually turn in slightly higher velocity. Probably just the 2 grains less weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GabbyM View Post
    Suggest you try fitting some in your barrel. You almost surely are in for a surprise. I load my similar Saeco bullet to 1.045" and it's backing the round up but not out to flush with barrel hood yet.

    Another note. I have several 9mm molds. 124gr RN as typical does not set down inside the case as far as the 122gr TC. So at one time I thought that extra powder space in the 9x19mm would equate to higher velocity. Well it didn't with the few powders I tried. The 122's actually turn in slightly higher velocity. Probably just the 2 grains less weight.
    at 1.09 I am already at the maximum length im going to get out of the bullet.

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    I load a very similar boolit in my 9mm to 1.050 and it feeds and shoots quite well.

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    What kind of pistol are you shooting it out of? Also, as others have mentioned, pull the barrel and drop loaded rounds of various OAL into the chamber and see which ones stick out past the barrel hood area. I've done this with every semi auto pistol I've ever reloaded for. The books will give you a good starting reference but some guns just work better with the rounds a little longer (or shorter) than "book length". Don't give up on such a nice mold just yet.

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    Sometimes we have to realize that even though we have a good bullet, a particular gun might not like it for what ever reason, but another gun will just love it. I would try a longer heavier bullet for your gun before altering that NOE mould.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mallen View Post
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    You have two lengths to consider. One is the max COL that will fit in the guns magazine. Other is the length to where the front band contacts the rifling then longer starts to back up the loaded round in the chamber. Your bullet is a flat point VS a round nose. Thus being bobbed off it will have plenty of magazine room. If you drop an empty case into your barrels chamber. You'll notice it stops where it head spaces on the rim and case head is below flush at the barrel hood. As you laod a bullet in cases. You'll start backing that case head up towards the barrel hood as your bullet contacts either the rifling or resist going into any free bore the chamber may or may not be cut with. SAMI chambers have a throat with free bore. Some of the Euro guns do not. Bullet front band against rifling or throat is what we are talking about checking with the pistol barrel removed from gun.

    Hope that helps and I'm not just confused.

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    I never though about customizing the sizing die to the gun. now, should this be done after i shoot the round with that specific gun?

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    by using the die to seat the bullet little bitty bits at a time i was able to get a plunk test to work at 1.185. unfortunately, the round would hang on the mag. i had to back down to 1.18 to get it to cycle. that was after a few presses and loading, so the corners of the bullet are slightly beveled. i might be able to keep the same length by polishing the inside of the mag where it kinda bevels in at the top.
    any way of doing this?

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    Try it with an unblemished bullet before you go to modifying the mag. Change one thing at a time.

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    Did they hang on the mag when firing or when cycling by hand? Cycling by hand is not a substitute for live fire. You'd be surprised what works only one way but not the other and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon813gt View Post
    Did they hang on the mag when firing or when cycling by hand? Cycling by hand is not a substitute for live fire. You'd be surprised what works only one way but not the other and vice versa.
    I prefer to make them work both ways. if there is a jam for any reason or another, i may have to hand cycle, i don't want to hand cycle just to have another jam that takes a tool to unjam.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
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LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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