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  1. 12-09-2014, 10:12 PM #1
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    Thoughts / questions

    Been offline for a time but the brain still keeps going......


    Does anyone make a reasonable priced hand operated roll crimper? Or be able to make them in a basement shop?

    Been thinking with the ammo and component shortages that maybe it would be wise to buy new 3" hulls and roll crimp so that as needed I could keep trimming the hull a 1/4 inch down to a 2 inch hull.

    Dixie tri ball load, anyone still making them since the owner of the company is ill and not selling the loaded ammo?

    Still kicking around the idea of doing away with the wads and using wraps. Did the factory guys go to plastic wads because they are better? Or because it saved them time / money by switching to them?

    Speed - fast and light load vs a slow heavy load for deep penetration........
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    http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Ori...ctinfo/ROLL12/
    http://www.ballisticproducts.com/Exa...info/ROLL12EX/
    http://www.precisionreloading.com/cart.php#!c=140

    triball recipe:
    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ading-sequence

    not necessarily better:
    http://www.beartoothbullets.com/prin...e=tech%20notes

    but they can work well:
    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...shot-revisited

    penetration vs flatter shooting, tough call but here is penetration:
    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...=1#post2446761
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    Thank you.

    Does anyone make a reasonably priced roll crimper machine?
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    Aside from the drill head ones I linked to, the only roll crimping machines I have seen are antiques.
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  6. 12-10-2014, 03:50 PM #6
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    A must read here !!

    http://www.16ga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16772

    http://www.precisionreloading.com/cart.php#!c=140
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpileri View Post


    not necessarily better:
    http://www.beartoothbullets.com/prin...e=tech%20notes

    Thanks!

    That is some great reading!

    I suggest that article as a sticky
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpileri View Post
    Aside from the drill head ones I linked to, the only roll crimping machines I have seen are antiques.
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    The antiques part means lots of money

    Was hoping someone saw a money making idea and started making new ones.
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  9. 12-10-2014, 09:16 PM #9
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    NOT too expensive
    see here

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Shot...23566414&rt=nc
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeettx View Post
    NOT too expensive
    see here

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Shot...23566414&rt=nc
    Wow! Thanks!

    I was expecting a lot higher price
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  11. 12-10-2014, 09:55 PM #11
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    I've seen them on ebay from time to time, and not too expensive either.
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