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    swaging dies

    I just got a bunch of swaging dies. They are marked L F F. Does anybody know what that means?

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    Here are some pictures of what I have.
    Last edited by bullet maker 57; 12-11-2014 at 07:57 PM. Reason: added pictures

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    Post a pic
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    Think the name was L.F. Franson. Forgot the name of the town in Oregon, seems Oregon was (and still is) a "hotbed" of bullet swage makers.

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    Fits what Type of Press?

    1/2 Jacket or full jacket style?

    Calibers?
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    I am not sure yet. Almost any caliber you can name. Both half and full.

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    I have a set of these dies in 30 cal and did research some time ago. As I recall, these dies were made at a trade school and sold. I have an ad which lists these dies for $45 in 1966. A complete set includes two swage bodies with punches, two nose punches which are held in place by the shell holder, and an ejector which is press specific. The ejector replaces the primer seating arm and is roughly shaped like a "Z". Unfortunately, my ejector is missing and I have to make one for my RCBS A2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danth View Post
    The ejector replaces the primer seating arm and is roughly shaped like a "Z". Unfortunately, my ejector is missing and I have to make one for my RCBS A2.
    Would you post a picture of it when you get it done? I'd love to see one and maybe have one made.
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    See if you can put together any die sets that will work on the Mity-Mite press. I would be interested in those. I'll wait and see what kind of sets you can put together because I use "H", "S", "M", and Walnut Hill dies.

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    What thread on the Mity-Might press. There are dies that are threaded. They are not 5/8x24. Most dies go in a reloading press using the shell holder. There are various rams in the pile. One just might work. I will have more info as I sort thru everything.

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    Wow, that looks like an old school gunshow. Shows here in the midwest barely even have dies any more.

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    Bottom left picture
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    Looks like Ponsness Warren shotshell dies
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    Dies for the Mity-Mite are threaded 5/8 24 and screw into the threaded ram. The external punches are the same as "S" die punches and fit into the standard 7/8 14 threaded floating punch holder. From the pics it doesn't appear like you have any.

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    skeettx, I believe you are correct.
    midnight, I may have a ram for the Mity-Mite. I have a SAS press here. If the rams are the same length, I most likely have a replacement ram with the correct thread for the dies.

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    Well if you have 40 dies in that mess somewhere I would be interested.
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    Those right angle metal straps with the pin on the ends are ejector pins for the LLF dies. They were pinned into the loading press where the primer arm normally goes and were pushed into the slot in the ram while it was pulled back down to eject the bullet from the die. The forming die was screwed into the ram and the punch was where the loading die is normally screwed in.

    Hopefully all that stuff is marked as to caliber. Going to be a job to sort it out otherwise.

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    There are three different styles of dies. Shell holder, 9/16 thread?, and 1/2 thread. There is one SAS press and one press with no name. Both presses have different threads. I think the best way to sort is by press. There are also quite a few rams for different presses. Most of the bags are marked for caliber. There are a lot of loose dies also. I will look for 40 caliber.

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