Wanta start this project(45colt)-wax

[gunoil]

I wanta start this project next with quick draw 45 colt: Does anyone make there on primer hole in brass for shotshell primer or do you just buy em? The wax bullets are cheap enough.

[bdicki]

It looks like there're drilled and counter bored so the primer sits flush. 50 would last a long time. For that money I'd buy them.
http://www.cowboyfastdraw.com/secure...oduct_id=29802

[Moonie]

Years ago I did something similar, drilled the flash hole slightly bigger and marked about a dozen 44 mag cases. Prime and push them through a block of canning wax. Can't imagine they would be that much different from this and a whole lot cheaper.

[GRUMPA]

I wonder if I should add those to what I do, they wont be nickel though...

[Geppetto]

Why 209 primers? I was under the impression the 209's are basically large pistol primers with a self contained anvil. I guess 209s were more available the last couple years versus LPP, but I was curious for the reasoning with this.

EDIT: After some further reading it seems it is mostly for ease of loading/reloading the brass, rather than the power of the primer for propulsion.

[bangerjim]

I use mag primers or standard primers. Drill out the flash hole to ~1/8". Paint the ends red so I know they are NOT standard cases. Load up with shooting wax blend or HMG boolits I cast and shoot away.

I use 209's for shot shells.

I also sometimes add about 1gn or so of fast pistol powder to give them a bit more power and accuracy. Still about as loud as slamming two big text books together.

Watch the dangerous fumes if shooting inside!

banger

[USAFrox]

I use mag primers or standard primers. Drill out the flash hole to ~1/8". Paint the ends red so I know they are NOT standard cases. Load up with shooting wax blend or HMG boolits I cast and shoot away.

banger

HMG? Wassat?

[bangerjim]

HMG = hot melt glue

[USAFrox]

HMG = hot melt glue

ah, thanks! The only HMG i could think of was "Heavy Machine Gun", and that didn't seem to fit.

[bangerjim]

Remember.....all things are not gun-related!!!!!

If you are lucky, the sticks of HMG you get will fit tightly in a 45 case and you can just trim them off! HMG stiicks vary in diameter and if I remember, the ones HF sells are the right size, but you know how thier sourcing can run wild! Other brands may fit, but I have some from HD & Lowes that do not go in.

banger

[TNsailorman]

I have used (many years ago) paraffin wax bullets. Take a .38 special case, drill the flash hole to 1/8" size, melt wax in a cake pan to about the depth of a 148 gr. wadcutter bullet stood on its nose, let it cool to harden, insert a magnum pistol primer into the case, push the case mouth to the bottom of the pan. You now have a loaded 38 special case. I have shot these loads up to 25 feet but never farther. Bill Jordan use to use this load in stage shooting for audiences at something like 12 to 15 feet. Shooting aspirins, no less. I imagine the larger cases would work also although I never tried anything larger than .38 special. my experience anyway, james

[2AMMD]

Look for the thread "casting hot glue bullets" on this site. It's easy, cheap, and fun.
2AMMD

[BNE]

Why do you need to drill out the primer hole?
I have made a few of these and just used a regularly primed case. Seemed to work just fine, but I was just playing, I did not check for accuracy or real distance.

[bangerjim]

Nothing to do with accuracy. There is hardly any accuracy anyway with wax or HMG!!!!!!!

Believe it or not, with only the primer and no powder, many times the pressures will back out the primer! Somewhere sometime someone on here explained exactly why that happens. OK if you are not using a revolver.

The ones I did NOT drill out, all the shells stuck in the cylinder and I had a horrible time geting them out and getting it to rotate.

Drilling them out solves the problem for me and many others it seems. If you are not using a revolver, do not worry about it. It does not make any difference to my carbine rifles....obviously.

banger

[BNE]

OK, that makes sense.... I did have the primer back out and it was hard to open the cylinder.

[Roundnoser]

I have used (many years ago) paraffin wax bullets. Take a .38 special case, drill the flash hole to 1/8" size, melt wax in a cake pan to about the depth of a 148 gr. wadcutter bullet stood on its nose, let it cool to harden, insert a magnum pistol primer into the case, push the case mouth to the bottom of the pan. You now have a loaded 38 special case. I have shot these loads up to 25 feet but never farther. Bill Jordan use to use this load in stage shooting for audiences at something like 12 to 15 feet. Shooting aspirins, no less. I imagine the larger cases would work also although I never tried anything larger than .38 special. my experience anyway, james

I have a Potter tool that was designed to do the same thing! It was made in the 50-60s. Potter described its use for indoor practice, such as in the winter months. I should post a few pictures of it.

[vernb]

I didn't drill the flash hole and my model 85 would jam right up. I gave up after that. The 209 brass did it even worse.Upon firing the primer pushes itself out against the firing pin then the powder burns pushing the brass back over the primer. Without the powder the primer sticks out

[bangerjim]

Anyone that has primed brass knows some brass primes easy, some primes harder. Just in the tollerances of the pockets by the maker.

What I did - - - when priming brass, I marked the end of ones that went in nice and snug with a green Sharpie so I could remember which ones were "tighties" after being fired normally. Those I segregated and drilled out for wax and HMG loading. I have about 40 of them in 45LC and 38 SPL each. All other cals are used in semi's and no worry about the cylinder getting jammed by the backed-out primer. ( And, no....they do not cycle, so do not even ask!) So no dirlling required.

Not a one has ever backed out!

banger