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Thread: i bought powder!.....but am curious...(this is a jug question.)

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    i bought powder!.....but am curious...(this is a jug question.)

    recently i did some searching for the black 4 pound plastic jugs EXACTLY like all the major players use.
    peeled a label off the factory 1 pound jug and re-glued it to the new 4 pound jug.

    my reason? ......... shelf space. i do have a lot of powder types and several of each in those little round or square bottles.

    so i carefully condensed each powder type and brand to one jug for that label.
    example: 4 little bottles of h110 powder now has its own 4 pound jug! .....less foot print.

    and i'm o.c.d. enough that i like everything to be uniform....close to being "Monk" ......but not yet.
    its a gift...and a curse.

    yesterday i bought a 8 pound jug of ww296 ................and a 1 pound bottle of same.

    this behemoth of a jug was the size of 1/2 a bed pillow ....i'm sure you all know of what i'm describing....

    so i get home and prepare my 2 brand new 4 pound jugs to receive....hope fully my new "9" pounds of powder.

    imagine my surprise when all 9 pounds of powder went into only one 4 pound jug???

    why that huge jug then....if they only fill it 40% full?

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    So when it sits on the shelf at the store, the consumer thinks he is getting a large quantity of powder. Also, they size their 8 pound jug for their least dense offering, and denser powders will have more free space.
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    I think it comes down to a stocking issue? Carry 1 container that will receive a given volume of the bulkiest product and then put everything into it. Same goes for the outer cardboard boxes. Less sizes means less stock to carry. What you do with it when it is in your hands is your dilemma!

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    That is a head scratcher. Did you weigh it? It may have to do with the density of the powder. They may make some powders that are light and fluffy enough that they require a jug that big. And since they want to remain consistent on the jug size, the more dense powders don't fill up the same jug. Either that or it is a marketing gimmick.

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    Wow, I'm third in line! I guess I need to type faster?

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    actually...i did weigh it.

    8.79 pounds....i'm not happy about that either.

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    must be what blaser said....however, i did buy H-6 in the 4 pound jug size....and sure enuf there was 8 pounds in it.

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    mozeppa I don't think you are OCD or you would have mentioned lot numbers on the one pounders you mixed together, now you've created your own lot
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    Vaguely remember reading something about powder cans providing enough airspace to allow the can to split and relieve pressure before exploding in event of a fire. Could also be a sales gimmick, though I guess.

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    Everything now days is like this, look at potato chips....

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    Quote Originally Posted by butch2570 View Post
    Everything now days is like this, look at potato chips....
    This is one of my pet peeves, the very reason I do not buy chips unless I can see through the bag, so clear bags for me.
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    so i carefully condensed each powder type and brand to one jug for that label.
    example: 4 little bottles of h110 powder now has its own 4 pound jug! .....less foot print.

    I would say that you also have made the newest powder equal to the oldest powder in that container. With the recent threads on degraded powder, what is the benefit of having one large container repeatedly opened and closed. With small containers, that can remains sealed until needed, this does not become a problem. What is the benefit of shorter shelf life?



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    I am sure the powdermakers have enough inventory to keep up with now. Imagine if they had to size every jug to the powder it contained. They just make one big jug to fit all.

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    I hope all those combined bottles were from the same lot. Otherwise if there is a recall you have no way of knowing. It could also effect the burn rate.

    As far as bottle sizes. They are sized for the bulkiest powders, almost. It makes sense to have one or two bottle sizes instead of one for every powder type. One of the exceptions is Trail Boss. You get less than a pound in a one pound container. But the weight is clearly marked on the label.

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    I figger the first two fellers are right. One container, mebbe too big for one powder, but just right for another, but only have to buy/stock one size. Quite common with today's manufacturers.

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    The last time I was able to buy powder at the LGS I sometimes haunt, I bought a pound of Red Dot and also what I thought was a pound of 700X. The salesman pointed out that if I only purchased a pound of powder, the 700X was the better buy as it was a $1 cheaper than the Red Dot. Well, I was just happy to find powder so I bought both the Red Dot and the 700X. (This is the first 700X I've ever purchased). When putting it away at home, I had to laugh . . . yea, the 700X WAS $1 cheaper than the Red Dot . . BUT . . . the container also states that it is 14 ounces and not 16 ounces like the Red Dot.

    But hey . . . I'm not complaining as I was happy to get it . . . but it will teach me to pay more attention to the quantity listed on the container.

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    That's funny I'm OCD in the other direction, to avoid needless opening and exposing my 8lbers to air and mositure, I will open the 8lbers and fill my smaller 1lb bottles of powder(I NEVER re-lable I just use an empty of the same powder) then I use the 1lbers on the bench( as noted the 1 lbers in most cases hold nearly 2 pounds), so I'm not exposing my big 8 lb jug to air, every time I top off the powder measure or need to switch powders,

    Less opening, less humidity gets to the powder Got to keep your powder dry
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    just to set everyone's mind to ease....yes i am ocd.

    yes they were all bought by the brands from the same production run.

    i'm not stoooopid!

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    as for "shelf life"....heh...heh....there is way more "shelf life" in my 110 pounds of powder than there is "shelf life" in me!!!!

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    the 4lb container has half of it full of powder
    my feedback. ive done a few more but never get feedback.
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