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    GC or PB mold?

    I have a question about gas checks. I want to buy a new mold for my 30-30. I like the RD 311-165 from NOE. The molds offered drop either two gas check bullets or one gas check bullet and one plain based bullet.

    In my plinking I shoot about an equal number of full power loads and low power loads with pistol powder.

    Should I buy the mold that drops one of each or should I get the mold that drops two gas check bullets and just leave the checks off of the low velocity loads? Will the accuracy be affected that much?

    How fast can I push the plain-based bullet with 45-45-10?

    Would straight Alox be better?

    Any help would be great.

    Steve in N CA

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    sgh, Since you shoot ~equal no.'s of high and low power loads, wouldn't the GC AND PB mold be the better choice? Also, all things being equal, you can push PB CB's as fast as 1500 - 1600 fps with excellent accuracy. As far as alox v. 45-45-10 is concerned, I can offer no advice as I've never used the latter. However, I've used other lubes, e.g., Felix Lube, and have seen no difference between them and alox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maven View Post
    sgh, Since you shoot ~equal no.'s of high and low power loads, wouldn't the GC AND PB mold be the better choice? Also, all things being equal, you can push PB CB's as fast as 1500 - 1600 fps with excellent accuracy. As far as alox v. 45-45-10 is concerned, I can offer no advice as I've never used the latter. However, I've used other lubes, e.g., Felix Lube, and have seen no difference between them and alox.
    Maven, thank you.

    That was my line of reasoning as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sghart3578 View Post
    I have a question about gas checks. I want to buy a new mold for my 30-30. I like the RD 311-165 from NOE. The molds offered drop either two gas check bullets or one gas check bullet and one plain based bullet.

    In my plinking I shoot about an equal number of full power loads and low power loads with pistol powder.

    Should I buy the mold that drops one of each or should I get the mold that drops two gas check bullets and just leave the checks off of the low velocity loads? Will the accuracy be affected that much?

    How fast can I push the plain-based bullet with 45-45-10?

    Would straight Alox be better?

    Any help would be great.

    Steve in N CA
    I have shot a lot of 30-06, 270, 54R, 300 BO and 5.56 with 45-45-10 lube. Up to 1500 fps I use PB above that I gas check. The one exception is that I always GC for my AR cartridges no matter what speed. For the last 18 months I have been shooting all of the above Powder Coated with accuracy at least as good as the 45-45-10 on cast lead.

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    Agree with ipijohn. If consistently going above 1400-1500 fps your better off with a good gas check firmly crimped into place with a sizer.

    Finding a mold that will throw both seems like a slam dunk.

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    I love the combined gc and pb moulds from Noe. If your going to shoot a lot of both and want to save money on moulds it's a good deal.

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    get the one PB and one GC mould.

    can't go wrong with the choice there.

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    I would get the NOE mould that casts both GC and PB bullets. I think a plain base bullet will shoot better than a gas check bullet without the gas check.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check