Stealth Hunting with Firearms

[barrabruce]

Outpost what do you mean?

rook rifle-type throat

Sounds like a nice setup.

Thnx

[Norske]

Does sitting in a rocking lawn chair in cover between there the deer want to bed and where they want to eat count as stealth? Hey bow hunters aren't fools, but I prefer a rifle.

[Outpost75]

Outpost what do you mean?

rook rifle-type throat

Sounds like a nice setup.

Thnx

.363" major diameter of forcing cone entrance ahead of case mouth chamfer from .388 case mouth diameter.

No cylindrical ball seat or freebore, but long taper forcing cone 3 degrees Basic (6 degree total included angle) which matches contour of Accurate 36-220H or 36-240H bullets so that its forepart is lightly engraved upon chambering.

Dave Manson produced the reamer which John Taylor has, is identified as .380 Rook Harris Rev. 11-17

If you want to PM me with an email address which will accept a .pdf file, which I am unable to attach here, I'll send you the reamer and headspace gage drawing.

[Outpost75]

A pistol caliber carbine (16" bbl) with a heavy subsonic round is your best bet without a suppressor. And a 44 or 45 would be best at least for deer. Small game just use a subsonic .22 rf.

Mine has a 20-inch barrel. .380 MkIIz 178-grain FMJ does not exit every time, but lubricated lead bullets do.

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[McFred]

This works decently in a Contender Carbine. It's a sub sonic 35-200 clone in a 357Sig, and at 1050fps has about as much muzzle engergy as a full pressure 125gr from a .357 Magnum pistol. It's not as quiet as .22 rimfire, but it's sure no .308Win.



35 yards:


Short, light weight.

[38Special]

THAT is cool..!

So what is the caliber of your Encore?

[Scrounge]

Ghillie suit...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

[McFred]

THAT is cool..! So what is the caliber of your Encore?

Um, are you referring to my post? I don't think there's mention of an Encore in the entire thread.

[Alferd Packer]

A small reload kit for cat's sneeze loads for 30-06 consisting of:
Three cases fired, but unsized in your rifle, 100 lead balls already sized and aloxed, 100 primers, a leatherman tool, a decapping punch,a 1/4 lb. Bullseye, a .22 LR case with a soldered on handle, or a twisted wire handle to dip 3.0 grs, powder into fired case, new primer can be set on flat part of leatherman and case forced down onto fresh primer.
Actually only need one case, but couple extra can be kept loaded and ready and replacements if single case dropped and lost.
Also a dipper of bullseye can help to start a fire on humid day when tinder is stubborn.
Many states regulations forbid the carrying of a handgun while hunting with a rifle. Same with building a cooking fire.
It depends on your wants and needs.
All I need is the rifle I'm carrying
and a way to make a few cat's sneeze loads.
Trying to do it the way Townsend Whelan would have understood.
Of course you have your hunting ammo and shelter half and are dressed for the time of year.
My 2 cts
This all presupposes that you have spent the time it takes to reload these under controlled conditions and also know the aiming point using your hunting rifle to make accurate, small game killing hits before you try this on your big game hunting trip.
Same goes for building a fire and cooking your catch of the day.
Several rehearsals are called for so you can gain proficiency as a woodsman.
It all depends on your learning curve.
It's harder than it looks, but none of it is impossible if you want to learn.
Practice makes perfect. You should be gathering tinder and small twigs as you hunt and should be wearing a large cloth bag on a strap to stuff your fire starters and dry sticks for your evening fire long before you get to your campsite.
Also, small mouse nest of dry easy to start fluff and soft dried bark and maybe tree fungus.
You will learn what to collect and carry for later when you need it, but it's getting dark and not the time to be hunting for what you should already have.
Same goes for your skills at reloading your cat's sneeze and harvesting small game with the same loads.
Practice and patience.

[centershot]

C-r-o-s-s-b-o-w!

[murf205]

Ghillie suit...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

+1 for the Ghille suit. It is truely the cloak of invisibility. I have had a small wren light on my arm and I had a flock of 11 hen turkeys feed 4 paces away from me for 5 min. Folks, that's 22 turkey eyes and if you don't make eye contact with a critter and the wind is right, it is the cat's meow for close in hunting. That's why I Laurer coated my SRH. If I need to get stealthy, I use the crossbow. McFreds rig looks promising and I have often given thought to a subsonic Encore or Contender in 44 spl or mag with a can on it for deer size game. We are not talking long range here, sometimes feet instead of yards. I use a folding directors chair(camo) and use boughs and branches from the surrounding brush to make a semi circle around me to further break up my outline and wear a face mask to cover my mug. Leafy gloves help too.

[Drm50]

I wouldn’t wear a Ghille suit if you paid me. You probably wouldn’t survive and the idiot that killed you wouldn’t even know it. Enough people get shot wearing blaze orange. A friends Dad was shot off his tractor and killed in Ohio deer season. Bad times will put more idiots in the woods. In the biggest part of the USA a 22 will kill anything you come across. One shot and nobody knows what direction it came from. Rather than sign up on a government list and spend big bucks on suppressors and such you would be better served to use the money to buy beef jerky. I think you would survive longer this way.

[Outpost75]

Some 25-yard open sight groups, 100 yard gong hits and pressure test data from Larry Gibson for a .455 rook rifle. Quiet like .22 LR standard velocity, full-length deer penetration on raking and Texas Heart Shots.

.455 Colt/Eley, 265grain lead ogival nose HB, fired from 20-inch Rook Rifle
Optimum trajectory for max bullet rise 3 inches, zero range 60 yds., max. point blank 72 yds.
Simple iron sights one inch above bore.

Yds_Drop(ins)_Vel.(fps)_Energy(ft.lbs.)
0___-0.9584___680____272
10___1.1536___675____268
20___2.5025___670____264
30___3.0769___665____260 Max. 3-inch bullet rise
40___2.8653___660____256
50___1.8561___655____252
60___0.0377___651____249
70__-2.6020___646____246
80__-6.0750___641____242
90_-10.3934___637____239
100_-15.5696__632____235 - 100 yd rifle impact approximates MkVI revolver near muzzle.

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[quilbilly]

My "rook rifle" has been for many years also a Contender Carbine but in 9mm Luger. While not quiet since it throw 135 gr boolits at above sonic speed, it is very easy on unprotected ears. I recently acquired a Ruger Mod77/357 bolt gun that I am working up loads for right around sonic velocity with a 190 gr WFPB boolit that should also be easy on the ears. The 9mm is "minute of pop can" with iron sights at 125 yards so is more than adequate for accuracy.