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Thread: PC bullets and the .30-30

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    Boolit Buddy
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    PC bullets and the .30-30

    In my new found addiction with PC bullets, I found some unsized and unlubed RCBS 180 gr FNGC cast slugs. These were water quenched WW bullets, my favorite for such guns going about 2200 fps. They had a BHN of about 20. After their PC bake at 400 degrees for 17 minutes, their BHN drops to 10. "They" say PC has a hardness of around 45 BHN, while a bullet jacket is around 60. The slugs were then pushed thru a LEE .311 sizing die and gas check crimped on. I gotta say, You don't need to put the GC totally on using these dies. I just place the GC on the bottom of slug, and send it up the pipe.There is no shaving of PC, and the GC's are square and tight. Anyway, I had some PC .30-30 bullets and couldn't wait to test them. My test rifle would be a '76, pre safety Marlin model 336 in .30-30, topped with a Bushnell 1.5-4.5X scope. I had 19 of the slugs to load, and seated them over 32 grs. of Winchester 748, a favorite load that is just shy of 2,200 fps.




    Here is the RCBS slug in brown and a Lyman 311440 in white for comparison.


    I fired one shot to foul the barrel and started on my groups. Distance would be 100 yds, for five shots. The first group, top left, was about what I was used to in the Marlin with traditional sized and lubed bullets. It was about 2-2 1/2", not bad for 5 shots in a lever gun. The second group, top right, was better. The first four clustered nicely, with the 5th going out. the third group was much like the second, 4 tightly clustered holes and a flyer on the last. the final group I had 3 rounds left. It grouped in about an inch. Overall, it was a good test, and my confidence continues to grow using these PC bullets. I have some .444 and .45-70 slugs I need to load and test. We'll see! If I were a betting man, I would say they will continue the trend and improve accuracy.




    Here's the rifle and groups from todays shoot. The ol' Amish Assault Rifle held its own with the PC bullets.

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    Your groups look similar to mine from a Springfield 840 be it a 90g SWC or a lee TL160

    However I have not pushed my velocities up quite as high as yours just yet. I find your post most encouraging

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    I PC all my 30 cal slugs but have not pushed them past about 1,800 or so in my 30-30 and 06. Good groups at 50 & 75 yards. No leading.

    Later this month I will "hot load" some and go for the higher velocities!

    I shoot 120, 150, and 170gn cast with a hardness of ~14 then PC & Cu GC.

    Thanks for the report + pix!

    banger

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    That is a LOT of crimp for a 30/30!
    Whatever!

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    I gotta get me a nose sizing die! My .308 Handi chambers my Lee 170s and 180s just fine but in my 30-30 Handi you really have to slam the door to get powder coated boolits chambered. Wouldn't want to have a high primer. So far I have been shading the noses when I coat for the 30-30 but a nose sizer would be easier. GP

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
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