Someone has to ask/ Ebola--How concerned are we ??

[opos]

anyone recall polio? I do. Anyone recall scarlet fever? I do..I had scarlet fever and our house was quarantined...no one got in or out where there would be contact with me..My Mother was the only person allowed to have any contact with me..my Dad could not even come into my room....and scarlet fever spread like wild fire...

Of course Ebola is here and it's going to spread..no way to stop it...but doubt it will be of the magnitude folks might think...the one thing is that you have to show symptoms before you are contagious...the guy in Texas wandered into the hospital 48 hours before he was "diagnosed" with a fever and symptoms...they sent him home...who knows who he saw or was in contact with during that 2 days..my fear is that the government agencies will be so busy playing CYA that they will cover up things like that so they don't look bad...IRS..V/A...Secret Service?????? All CYA when there was no chance of a problem.

I am avoiding as much "contact" with folks as possible until we see how this plays out...I carry the hand wash liquid..no hugging...no shaking hands, etc.. I live right near the Tijuana crossing and have no idea what gets across the border...we may have all sorts of ideas and rules in the U.S. but who is monitoring the wetbacks and the fence jumpers that flood the Southwest every day?

They reported that the guy that is in Texas left Liberia because his wife (or some other pregnant woman) died of Ebola shortly before...when he "filled out the questionaire" at the airport he just omitted the parts about contact with anyone with sickness...how many folks will lie to not be detained for 21 days before they can complete their travel??

[GOPHER SLAYER]

Why should we believe anything Obozo and company say? My wife saw a specialist on TV yesterday say that you could catch the Ebola virus if you were within three feet of an infected person. It has come to light that this infected doctor who just came from Liberia sent his kids off to four different schools. Do you remember how the CDC and other government agencies told us we had nothing to worry about when AIDS came to visit? Now we have no idea how many people have that virus. A bigger problem with aids is an invected person can live for decades and show no ill effects, much like typhoid Mary. I am very concerned.

[Smoke4320]

distrust and verify
I can't trust anything the gov or the news says any longer. Must seek other methods to verify anything reported or said
with that said I am mildly worried about multiple infected persons entering the US at different points spread across the US and what that may do to our health system and response

[flyingmonkey35]

[Janoosh]

You must read Artful's posting about Ebola in the pit. And read everythhing very carefully. Dr's tried everything they had and are not sure it worked.The patient resorted to self medications. Unfortunately, I work in the service industry, in a very niche profession. My paycheck is in NYC. How many others here work in a metropolis??
Yes...I am very concerned. Could you local hospital handle more than two cases??

[Multigunner]

Some years ago a doctor who had traveled by air after becoming infected seeking better treatment facilities only became infectious to others after the virus began to come out in his sweat.A nurse who hung up his coat became infected simply by contact with the sweat contaminated cloth.The man who brought Ebola to Texas had no idea he had touched an Ebola infected person. He had helped a distressed pregnant woman find someone to take her to the hospital and rode in the car with her for a short time. The woman died without anyone suspecting it was Ebola rather than complications from a miscarriage.A great many HIV infections have come from accidental contact with blood of an infected person who has been in an accident.There was a case of a lab worker contracting Rabies simply from breathing cool air that had passed over an exposed disected dog brain. A extremely unlikely event but it happened. An airconditioner vent was in just the right position.The HIV scares may work in our favor. Most first responders now avoid contact with blood whenever possible and wear gloves. Anyone rendering aid to a sick or injured person would do well to follow that example.

[gray wolf]

@CDCgov How long can Ebola survive on surfaces that have been coughed on, or otherwise contaminated? Like edge of a glass, toothbrush?

@spellingwitch Ebola virus dried on surfaces such as doorknobs and countertops can survive for several hours: http://go.usa.gov/vQjj

You can add to that, seat backs in the airplanes he flew here on. Or doorknobs/door handles at the airport. He must have used the bathroom facilities on the planes or the airports he was in. (he was on 3 different planes)

THEN we have the girlfriend/fiancee and the kids in the apartment he was in where he vomited and had diarhea all over. OH and they are just NOW going in to that apartment to decontaiminate it. All the while the girl and the kids are still there. Oh and he went outside and vomited all over the lawn before the ambulance got there. Do you think that anyone disinfected that area before people, dogs or other animals tracked thru it and took those same viruses elsewhere? OR the kids who went to school (4 different schools) on Monday and last week?

It's up to 80 to 100 people they are watching now. NOT 12 to 18 like they said yesterday. Have they all been put into a 21 day quarantine? Where have they been or where are they now?
How about those planes he was on? How many of the planes got disinfected between his flight and the next one? NONE.

It goes on and on. Do yourselves all a favor and go read those links I posted. If you have loved ones, it's up to you to protect them. Especially children.

Julie
(sorry for posting under Sam's handle. I needed to say this above quickly)

[Duckiller]

I am concerned because it took a supposedly fine hospital four days to figure out that they may have an Ebola patient. Story in local newspaper(AP) has Texas hospital claiming they did everything right. I believe some medical personnel in Texas need some remedial classes in public health and disease control. Not monitoring anyone that was on the airplanes with him also concerns me. What if Ebola can be spread in several ways? More openness as to what the CDC and others are doing to contain this potential outbreak would be appreciated other than "Everything is fine"

[Wise Owl]

Here is a fine example of the CDC and the State Dept of Health in Texas and how they have this all contained. Read it and then tell me how they have it under control.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...osed-Ambulance


DALLAS PARAMEDIC: WE WEREN’T CONTACTED AFTER WORKING IN EBOLA EXPOSED AMBULANCE

by BOB PRICE 2 Oct 2014, 9:35 AM PDT

(Bolding mine ~BBL)
HOUSTON, Texas -- A Dallas paramedic claimed he drove the ambulance that the US Ebola patient was transported in and that he was not contacted by anyone about the potential exposure. He claims he drove the ambulance sometime after the patient was transported. The Dallas Fire Department left the ambulance that transported Ebola patient Thomas Duncan to the hospital in service for at least 48 hours before putting it in quarantine on Wednesday. The ambulance was exposed to the Ebola virus when Duncan was transported on September 28th.

“All the people in the back of the ambulance 48 hours later before they finally took the ambulance out of service,” said Dallas Paramedic Geoffrey Aklinski in a discussion on Facebook, “none of them have been contacted. None of the paramedics that were on that shift and went in the ambulance were contacted. I’ve been off three days now. No one contacted me and I was in and drove that ambulance after it was infected.”
Aklinski said he was going to a doctor on his own initiative to be tested for the Ebola virus. “This is definitely a concern and exposed workers have not been contacted or tested… like me,” he explained. “I had to call into control in Dallas at 8 pm and complain to get evaluated.”

“Three days after the fact,” an exasperated Aklinski stated, “I had to demand exposure testing and they are reporting following up with all the people in the ambulance??? Bull ****!!! They haven’t even followed up with the ten firefighters that were on duty Sunday.”
Aklinski went further in explaining the frustration he and most likely, other firefighters, are feeling. “How do you not test and contact the firefighters at the station on Sunday!!! Only the two medics and the intern on the ambulance? I was freaking in that ambulance hours later driving it!!! No one bothered to contact me about it?!!!”

He went on to say he has contacted other news outlets and they won’t report his side of the story. “They just go with the official reports,” Aklinski stated.
Aklinski said he is going in for testing today and then will go into a 21 day home evaluation period.
Breitbart Texas contacted the Dallas Fire and Rescue Department and the Dallas Firefighters’ Association for comment. No response was immediately available.
Bob Price is a staff writer and a member of the original Breitbart Texas team. Follow him on Twitter @BobPriceBBTX.

[Wise Owl]

One more article for now.

If you think cause it's in Texas and you live in the Northwest you are safe? Ok, read below. This is not confirmed yet but it can happen ANYWHERE in the US. People travel, they come home. It's not just doctors and missionaries that travel to places like Africa. And there are always going to be people like the Duncan guy in Texas that will lie to get on a plane so he can go to the US and get the "cure" in one of our hospitals.

Utah’s Primary Children’s evaluating possible Ebola patient

By Kristen Moulton | The Salt Lake Tribune
First Published 37 minutes ago • Updated 4 minutes ago

Primary Children’s Hospital says a patient has been admitted there with Ebola-like symptoms, but it’s unlikely the person has the deadly virus.

The hospital scheduled a 1 p.m. news conference to discuss its emergency plan in such cases.


Published October 2, 2014

"While we have determined it is unlikely that the patient has Ebola virus, Primary Children’s has taken this opportunity to use the emergency plan that we have been working on for the past few months in order to provide the maximum protection to staff, patients, families, and the greater community in the event we do have a patient with an Ebola infection in the future," a news release said.

Hospital Spokeswoman Bonnie Midget said the patient had been in Africa and was admitted under the hospital’s new emergency protocols for dealing with Ebola. She declined to confirm the patient is a child. The family has asked for privacy.

"We’re in the process of ruling it out," Midget said.

The hospital’s epidemiologist was to discuss how Primary Children’s is caring for the patient, what the hospital is doing to protect the patient, staff and visitors, and answer questions about the Ebola virus.

Utah’s Primary Children’s evaluating possible Ebola patient By Kristen Moulton | The Salt Lake Tribune First Published 37 minutes ago •
Updated 4 minutes ago

Primary Children’s Hospital says a patient has been admitted there with Ebola-like symptoms, but it’s unlikely the person has the deadly virus. The hospital scheduled a 1 p.m. news conference to discuss its emergency plan in such cases.

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"While we have determined it is unlikely that the patient has Ebola virus, Primary Children’s has taken this opportunity to use the emergency plan that we have been working on for the past few months in order to provide the maximum protection to staff, patients, families, and the greater community in the event we do have a patient with an Ebola infection in the future," a news release said. Hospital Spokeswoman Bonnie Midget said the patient had been in Africa and was admitted under the hospital’s new emergency protocols for dealing with Ebola. She declined to confirm the patient is a child. The family has asked for privacy. "We’re in the process of ruling it out," Midget said. The hospital’s epidemiologist was to discuss how Primary Children’s is caring for the patient, what the hospital is doing to protect the patient, staff and visitors, and answer questions about the Ebola virus.


http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58...imary.html.csp

[jcwit]

Someone has to ask/ Ebola--How concerned are we ??
It seems we have the potential for a problem of sorts.
So my simple question is, How concerned are you folks ?

How much of the B/S media do you or are you believing ?

I played that game way back in 1956 with polio, doubt I'll get it!

Guess who lost.

Already training myself and the wife to use the sanitary tissues when shopping and using the hand sanitiser when leaving the stores.

[waksupi]

Men being men, I imagine he was showing signs for several days before going back to the hospital. Lots of spreading opportunity.
It would be easy to launch a biological attack here. Inject someone overseas, send them over here, and let them have contact with lots of people, like in airports for example. Imagine how many a hot dog peddler at a major league game could contaminate in a day.

[shooter93]

I'm not to worried about contracting it but I don't believe the containment stories being put out. People who had contact with infected people being sent home????.....sound like containment? I'm not betting on a pandemic but when case numbers 6,7 and 8 show up the panic in this country will start in earnest I believe. Perfect scenario for pretty much complete government control.

[Wise Owl]

Now Kentucky is quarantining 2 people suspected to have ebola.

Posted for fair use and discussion.
http://www.lex18.com/news/two-patien...like-symptoms/

4 hours 26 minutes ago
Two Patients Quarantined In Kentucky With Ebola-Like Symptoms

Two patients in Kentucky with Ebola-like symptoms have been quarantined for examination.

After the first case of Ebola was diagnosed in the US, doctors say they don't want to take any risks even though the two patients in Kentucky tested negative for the infection.

"The business of detecting it and finding out what it is, we're in good shape. If we get cases we need to be working more closely with the hospitals to see how we will manage individual cases," said Dr. Rice Leach, commissioner of health at the Fayette County Health Department. " But where did you get it, what is it, and who did you give it to? So far we're in great shape because we've practiced this thing three times going back as far as Anthrax, H1N1 and vaccine shortage 10 years ago."

Doctors will be taking every precaution necessary when it comes to patients who suffer Ebola-like symptoms.

Officials confirm the man diagnosed with Ebola in Texas Wednesday went to a Dallas ER in last week and, despite telling the hospital that he had been in disease-ravaged West Africa, they sent him home with antibiotics exposing him to dozens of people before he was brought back in, tested and diagnosed.

The hospital in Dallas released a statement saying it shows how easily an infection could be missed.

Now, about 80 people are being monitored for symptoms, that includes the 12 to 18 people who first came into contact with the infected man, as well as others those initial people had contact with.

The United Nations said Wednesday a staff member in Liberia died from "probable Ebola."

(The Associated Press contributed to this report.)

[nagantguy]

AHA!!!!

I've been wracking my brain to come up with an idea of what scenario will occur along about next summer or early fall that will cause an executive order to be issued terminating all POTUS and top Federal elected position voting proceedings indefinitely and the institution of widespread, Federal control by force. Someone made a joke about "don't worry about Hillary until bummer's third term is over" once and I thought yeah, why not a third term, he does whatever else he wants? Now it all makes sense: Feds distribute infected Mexican children throughout the US rather than deport them back to their native country, then allow them to spread some dread diseases, then put the final screws to freedom in the name of public welfare/disaster management/disease control, or "national emergency".

You heard it from me first! Taking tin foil hat off now....

Gear

Good to hear from you sir, haven't seen many posts from ya lately but I always enjoy em. I think there might be a lot to what you've said, hope you weren't kidding to draw out the crazies. Ever read the stand by King? Ebola and open boarders unless everyone manning the switches is retarded someone had something bad planned. Just saying

[Garyshome]

What did ayres say about 25 million people have to die in the US for the weather underground to be able to rule?

[Four-Sixty]

Can mosquitoes transmit Ebola?

[runfiverun]

it's a blood borne virus.

wasn't there a famous writer guy that wrote a book about airplanes crashing into the white house, and another book about the ebola virus starting up..
his main hero was jack ryan a cia type dude.
you remember him, he died from some mysterious circumstance about the same time one of his buddy's did from another mysterious circumstance.

anyway the ebola outbreak is probably going to be outpaced by that mysterious malady [virus thingy] affecting/killing kids in states where a bunch of ILLEGAL immigrants were just [coincidentally] bussed to.

[btroj]

Concerned yes, worried no.

Could this become a major problem in the US? Yes. Do I think it is likely? No.

It IS, or should be, a major wake up call regarding the spread of infectious disease in an era of easy, quick international travel.

[RED333]

More worried that anything.