Someone has to ask/ Ebola--How concerned are we ??

[smokeywolf]

If you think Wise Owl is warning that the sky is falling for "a little drama". I think you're misunderstanding a little sage council suggesting that it is "better to be safe than sorry", for fear mongering. Big difference between blanket statements made to promote fear and panic and creative and rational suggestions for proactive measures that are reasonable and practical.

[Catshooter]

From what I'm reading, even in underdeveloped countries if it is detected early and the patient gets supportive care the fatality rate drops to about 25%. That's not good but it sure beats 90%. This guy in Dallas has 2-4 weeks to live... unless the treatment works, .

Sorry dude, but he's Thomas is dead. Sunday evening. You might want to re-think things.


Cat

[waksupi]

In other news, they have quarantined a whole apartment building in Kansas City and also the hospital they took the occupant to. She just came here from.................Liberia.......
Who'd a thunk that, eh?

False story, more Alex Jones BS. The tin foil hat version of The Onion.

[dtknowles]

Sorry dude, but he's Thomas is dead. Sunday evening. You might want to re-think things.


Cat

You sure about that. I read it was an internet rumor.

Tim

[WILCO]

False story......

This comes after a Kansas City apartment building in the 3600 block of East Meyer Boulevard was sealed off about 9:30 p.m. Saturday when the man who lived there became seriously ill.

Read more: http://www.kctv5.com/story/26707306/...#ixzz3FNZWNjao

[Duckiller]

Mr Duncan is not dead , yet. Suggest those that think he has died find a new source of news.

[Wise Owl]

Wise Owl...you do love a little drama...don't you?

Actually no, I don't love a little drama. In fact, I could live the rest of my life with none.

My purpose to posting the articles is to inform members about cases that are popping up all around. If they test negative, yee haw. That's absolutely wonderful by me. I wish we never had the guy in Texas come here. I wish I could just carry on like nothing is happening and enjoy my husband, our dogs and the beautiful fall weather we are having up here. Not worrying about someone from out of state or anyone for that matter coming up here after being somewhere that had active ebola cases out walking around.
We get visitors from all over the US up here, all year round. It's a tourist area, fishing, sking, snow machines, 4 wheelers, etc etc.

So, if I take this a bit serious from all that I have read from different sources then yeah, I wanted to maybe keep a few more people safer.

Oh and none of my sources are Alex Jones or the Onion. K?

[Wise Owl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcJbYm5dLYU

Judge Jeanine on FOX news. I can't watch it due to dialup but others have said she tells it like it is.

[Wise Owl]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102062460?trk...tack:topnews:6

Ebola virus
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Ebola virus
The Ebola victim being treated in Dallas is now receiving an experimental drug after federal authorities gave the go-ahead for its use in emergency cases, the hospital said Monday.

The disclosure that Thomas Eric Duncan began receiving the drug brincidofovir came hours after its maker, Biopharma company Chimerix announced that the antiviral drug has been approved for emergency use in Ebola patients.
"Mr. Duncan remains in critical condition," said Candace White, spokeswoman for Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas. "His condition is stable. He is now receiving the investigational medication brincidofovir." Duncan contracted Ebola in the West African country of Liberia, but was diagnosed after traveling to the US.

Other Ebola patients soon could also be receiving the drug as a result of the Food and Drug Administration's decision to approve it on a compassionate-use basis.
Brincidofovir joins two other experimental antiviral drugs that have already been deployed in the battle against Ebola.

[waksupi]

Oh and none of my sources are Alex Jones or the Onion. K?

The Kansas story traces back directly to Infowars.

[JSnover]

Sorry dude, but he's Thomas is dead. Sunday evening. You might want to re-think things.


Cat

Really? As of 2pm today:
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebo...l-drug-n219566

[Wise Owl]

Kansas City occurance..... NOT Alex Jones....

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014...like-symptoms/

A Kansas City TV station, KCTV-5 reported Saturday night someone was being quarantined at Rockhill Research Hospital (Research Medical Center), according to their sister station in Wichita, KWCH.
A source in Kansas City confirmed the story to the Gateway Pundit and added some details.
A Nigerian woman was taken to the hospital with a high fever and Ebola like symptoms. Her apartment building was quarantined, though that may have been lifted later.
The source added the Nigerian woman initially tested negative for Ebola and was released (or set to be released) but was called back to the hospital. The source said parts of the hospital may be quarantined but the hospital is not confirming anything.
The CDC is reportedly on the way, according to the source.

Video of them taping off the apartment building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4IvDAkLVJ8

[JSnover]

The CDC just escorted a man from Liberia and his daughter off a plane in Newark. And then they let the rest of the passengers LEAVE the plane...........!
I am happy you are ok with this. Maybe get a few N100 masks and some gloves to keep in your car seeing as you live in an area that "may" have contagious traveling thru it after this afternoon.

Just a suggestion.....

I'm still not worried about it. Ebola is not the bogeyman, believe it or not. It won't sneak into your home tonight while you sleep. All of the precautions you take (I hope) to avoid a boatload of other diseases will also work against Ebola.
I dont feel like describing my personal hygiene and grooming habits for you. By now you should developed your own. Suffice it to say I know how not to get sick. I also know how not to panic. Try it some time.
Ill bet you a case of your favorite beverage that I'll be fine. Listening to folks like you, someone might think we'll all be dead by Christmas. If you get a PM from me around New Years you can pony up for a case of mine.

[Hamish]

Wise Owl...you do love a little drama...don't you?

Iave a few years of emergency medicine in my background and my wife has over 20 years ICU/critical care.

The handles on the shopping carts have been shown to be one of the highest vectors in transmission out there.

What is going on now is very much akin to what we went through as health providers back when Aids was quietly spreading into small town America. There was a lot of what the official stance was, and everyone doing what common sense dictated instead of "The CDC Party Line".

Wipes with bleach and 10 to 1 spray are cheap, common sense first tier preventative measures.

[sparky45]

All of the epidemics start with "patient" zero. We are there with many people exposed. I am very much concerned.

I was in Healthcare for over 35 years, and I fully believe that we haven't even seen the "tip of the iceberg" yet. We are at present (because of our porous south border) just getting a taste of what's likely to happen in the very near future. Do I think an outbreak of Ebola can or will happen in the US of A, ABSOLUTELY! If anyone that is so "unconcerned" that it won't happen then puzzle me this:
How did the NBC cameraman contract the disease without any contact with infected peoples? Before you answer, remember he was in FULL HAZMAT coverage. If you think for a minute that the govt. i.e. CDC is on top of this just think about Oblammo's healthcare Law.
BTW, Hamish is dead on the mark with his post concerning common sense ways to protect oneself.

[JSnover]

Newark is safe, btw...
http://gothamist.com/2014/10/05/sick...ned_newar.php#.
sick passenger did not have Ebola.
And, for what it's worth, weaponized Ebola isn't much of a threat either. Experiments were done at Fort Detrick if I recall correctly and they found the same thing as in the report below - impractical and ineffective.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/could-eb...t-not-so-easy/

[Katya Mullethov]

With any luck Duncan will die , so keep that story going and add :

THEY SMOTHERED HIM WITH A PILLOW !

Bad news travels fast .

If he survives it will be a sign to anyone that THINKS they might be infected that all they have to do is make it here and they will be saved . I can't blame them , it's not a bad deal really . $ 300-500,000 of inflated medical care for the price of a plane ticket .

[shoot-n-lead]

Exaggeration misleads the credulous and offends the perceptive.
~ Eliza Cook.

[smokeywolf]

It's amazing how clueless people can be when it comes to hygiene and sanitation. Many years ago when still an infant, my youngest had to spend quite a few days in the hospital. More than once I watched nurses strut into his room, place their unwashed hands on his hospital crib railing, let a little cooing and baby talk spill forth from their lips, then they would look up and smile at me, go into the bathroom, wash their hands with some antibacterial soap, then walk straight up to his crib again and place their freshly scrubbed hands right back on the crib railing where 60 seconds earlier they had placed their unwashed bacteria laden hands. When I told them, "now go back and wash their hands again before touching my son." they looked at me as though I was speaking a foreign language. After explaining to them what they had just done, instead of a sheepish or guilty expression on their face they would usually clam up and become defiant. I saw nurses follow this same procedure with unwashed ungloved hands then wash and glove and place their hands on contaminated surfaces prior to retrieving a thermometer from their pocket. Before being released from the hospital following the original ailment for which he was admitted, he contracted Rotavirus and had to stay 3 more days.

Just a caveat, most medical professionals are just that, professional and conscientious. But, you do have to look out for the ones who learn poor procedure from watching others exorcising poor and at times, dangerous procedures.

smokeywolf

[Wise Owl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaNsXJfcTr4

According to the Center for Aerobiological Sciences, U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Maryland:

(1) Ebola has an aerosol stability that is comparable to Influenza-A

(2) Much like Flu, Airborne Ebola transmissions need Winter type conditions to maximize Aerosol infection

"Filoviruses, which are classified as Category A Bioterrorism Agents by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (Atlanta, GA), have stability in aerosol form comparable to other lipid containing viruses such as influenza A virus, a low infectious dose by the aerosol route (less than 10 PFU) in NHPs, and case fatality rates as high as ~90% ."