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Revolvers that shoot so good, that even a specialty pistol shooter can do it!
I never thought I would equate the word "Ruger" with incredible field accuracy.
Ernie "The Untactical"
Not to downgrade the real nice performance of the frankenruger if I had the bucks I'd put a 6" bull barrel on one and then do a picatinny rail and go from there. Been done before by PPC shooters. Frank
If you don't mind me asking but how much did that run you? I have a GP100 that I wouldn't mind franking.
1,000,000 peso man
True the face of the frame, true the cylinder face, uniform the throats.
Trigger and timing.
With all the surfaces being trued, it lets us run a .0015 barrel/cylinder gap.
$500 for the barrel and shroud installed (Customer supplies the GP-100).
Includes facing off the frame if needed.
Same price for barrels up to 18" and shrouds up to 6"
Cost increases with other features, and you would need to contact Chris for that.
Neither of these are my Franken-Rugers. The 10" is a Gen 1 prototype (Chris') and the 8" is a customers that let me use it last week.
I am in the process of looking for stainless GP for my own FR.
To Frank46's post:
This revolver is different than the PPC set-up's in the past, in that it has a free floated barrel, and is purpose built for field shooting (resting the shroud on a rest of some kind).
Originally Posted by Magana559
Ernie "The Untactical"
Excellent, this just might be in my future.
1,000,000 peso man
The ppc design can shoot good
Here is the thing with the fr design.
The shroud is lighter. The entire gun minus scope with a 10" barrel only weighs 6oz more than a factory 6"
A ppc gun is well heavy
The shroud lets you support the gun in field shooting positions and not change point of impact.
This gun was shot of multiple rest types including sandbags and different bog gear set ups as well as just resting the butt on sand bags with no poi shift.
We had this discussion with the previous fr thread. Lots of people said it doesn't change their group with a standard wheel gun.
The fact is. It does
You have to be able to shoot tight enough and have a gun capable of shooting tight enough to notice it.
If your shooting 3-6" at 100 it will prob be masked.
The test is simple with this accurate gun. Rest the barrel. Fire 6 rounds. Rest the shroud. Fire 6. Look at the difference. Proofs in the range use.
Now that function is proven were moving on to cosmetics. Going to class it up a bit and brake up the slab side a bit
Here is even a more detailed review.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...-cool-handguns
Ernie "The Untactical"
"With all the surfaces being trued, it lets us run a .0015 barrel/cylinder gap."
Sorry I call BS with a gap that small a piece of paper(just miced a piece at my milling machine .0045") would lock that revovler up tighter than a drum. Some stuff should have a tight tolarance on it but some areas of a wheel gun shouldn't be.
Last edited by warf73; 10-04-2014 at 07:35 AM.
"Life isn't like a box of chocolates...It's more like
a jar of jalapenos. What you do today, might burn
your ass tomorrow."
Well sir it's not bs. Sitting right in the shop if you want to measure them. They were both shot a good bit and neither locked up. No cleaning was done.
Shot lead and jacketed.
There are some that won't be able to be that tight due to rugers poor qc and lack of good machining that pits them too far out of spec.
The worst I have had to set them up is .003
Do a wee bit more research and you will find more smiths doing the same.
I do have a S&W PC and it does NOT have a .0015" barrel/cylinder gap.
Interesting that these Rugers aren’t prone to carbon build up on the cylinder face. I guess you can set up any gun to be tight as you want but....
Like I said before there are places in a wheel gun were being tight is good or even great. But the cylinder gap isn't one of them unless you like cleaning it before you have finished a 200~300 round range session.
Maybe that’s where I'm wrong at?
This wheel gun isn't for long shooting session?
"Life isn't like a box of chocolates...It's more like
a jar of jalapenos. What you do today, might burn
your ass tomorrow."
It is definitely for LR shooting. At least mine will be
But, I will NOT be putting 200-300 rounds down range in a session.
No more than 100 rounds for me anyway at a time.
Once I get mine, I can check the gap if it is important to anyone.
Ernie "The Untactical"
Smith ment gunsmiths. Not a production line smith and wesson
Had some pretty lengthy shoots with it.
Before it went to sc for it's gun review several hundred rounds of both cast and jacketed were shot through it.
Even tho I have cleaned the bore and chambers once now. Still haven't cleaned the cyl face.
I've worked with and owned several revolvers that have 0.001" barrel/cylinder gaps. Shooting thousands of rounds in each, I've never encountered a problem with interference, and I do not clean cylinder faces.
Tightly fitted base pins, on the other hand, often do cause rotation to stiffen as they accumulate fouling. After every couple of hundred rounds I've had to pull tightly fitted base pins and clean them, particularly with Freedom Arms revolvers. It's easy, just wipe the pin with an oily rag and push it back in.
Try this grease on your pins. Helps a lot of my customers. It's available at napa. $5-6 for a lifetime supply for your guns
It's in the cardboard grease gun tubes. Called red and tacky. It's cherry red in color. Good stuff
Sebastian Lambang uses Red & Tacky internally in his line of Joystick Rests: (NEO, MAX, and Joy-Pod).
Ernie "The Untactical"
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