Do you make your own defense rounds?

[Petrol & Powder]

99.999% reliability for what? Reloads or Factory ammo?
I'm not being a jerk, I just don't know how to take that.
Are you implying you believe reloads are more reliable or factory ammo is more reliable?
Either way, It is part of your decision making process.

[mallen]

Reload are more reliable. Creating ammo is a manufacturing process, prone to quality control issues. Most reloaders, once experienced, make perfect ammo. factories sometimes make mistakes. read above, there are people here with experiences with SD ammo not firing. no powder, even no hole in the case for the primer. these are issues that can not happen with a quality reload. you can examine every case, measure each charge by hand. the only thing you can not control is the primer.

[M-Tecs]

Any case history of actual civil trials that handloads became an issue? Which would be better in civil court - Zombie Max or handloads?

[mallen]

Any case history of actual civil trials that handloads became an issue?

from what others here have said, there arnt any

[M-Tecs]

It has been a limited issue in a couple of criminal cases but it seems to be even rarer in civil cases.

Some references to the criminal cases

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=577414

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=448754

I can't find anything on the civil side.

[Petrol & Powder]

Reload are more reliable. Creating ammo is a manufacturing process, prone to quality control issues. Most reloaders, once experienced, make perfect ammo. factories sometimes make mistakes. read above, there are people here with experiences with SD ammo not firing. no powder, even no hole in the case for the primer. these are issues that can not happen with a quality reload. you can examine every case, measure each charge by hand. the only thing you can not control is the primer.

OK, thank you

[Petrol & Powder]

Any case history of actual civil trials that handloads became an issue? Which would be better in civil court - Zombie Max or handloads?

Given those two options - handloads.

What if the options are handloads vs. what your local PD carries?

[bruce381]

my defense laod is
whats in the gun at the time its needed

[mallen]

my defense laod is
whats in the gun at the time its needed

so then question is, what is in your gun when you are just going about your day.

[M-Tecs]

Given those two options - handloads.

What if the options are handloads vs. what your local PD carries?

Winchester Ranger T is what my local PD is currently issuing. I shoot leag's with a couple of local LE.

http://www.guns.com/2013/03/22/winch...n-v-now-video/

[mallen]

Winchester Ranger T is what my local PD is currently issuing. I shoot leg's with a couple of local LE.

http://www.guns.com/2013/03/22/winch...n-v-now-video/

can you buy the projectiles?

[zxcvbob]

Yes, I do. That way, I practice with the same ammo that I carry or use for HD. I do have some j-word ammo that I carry in my pocket for a reload, because it carries in a pocket better.

[mallen]

what projectiles do you use?

[zxcvbob]

what projectiles do you use?

Who, me? Lee 358-158-RF's cast from kind-of soft lead. It has a wide flat nose with a sharp edge.

I've also used Magnus bullets #515 (158 grain swaged lead hollow-points).

[mallen]

what is swagged

[mallen]

having trouble finding manufacturer bullets that are worth the cost. or even any different than cast hollow points.

[mallen]

swaging being pressing a chucnk of lead into shape?

seems like a lot of work.

[Petrol & Powder]

my defense laod is
whats in the gun at the time its needed

Really? No Kidding?




Duh!

[mallen]

had an empty mag in my pocket the other day, does that count?

[silverado]

I recently started loading my own sd ammo. I use xtp j words with a top load of unique. Hope I never have to answer why.