The Lost and forgotten Lyman 358477

[Char-Gar]

Sure I shoot lots of 358477. I have three 38 Special loads built around cast bullets and Bullseye powder, they are

1. 358477/3.5 BE - This is a general purpose field load.
2. Hensley & Gibbs 244 wadcutter/3.5 Bulleye - Put up in wadcutter brass, this is a defense load and also good for critters.
3. 358311/3.0 BE - This is a nice range and plinking load. Pressure is low so the load won't wear small frame snubs and pre-war M & Ps.

[Yodogsandman]

The Lyman 358477 is the only boolit that I've ever needed for 38 SPL.

[jonp]

I picked up one of those molds somewhere and it works very well in both my Blackhawk and my Target Masterpiece. Best powder ive found for it is Vectan GM3 of all things althiugh it doesnt seem fussy about powder choice

[jrmartin1964]

The first mould I ever bought for .38 Special was a double-cavity 358477. I picked it up used, probably 30 years ago. I've managed, in the intervening years, to accumulate eight more moulds of various design for the .38, each with its own merits. To date, though, boolits cast in that old mould, sitting over 3.0 grs. of Bullseye, give the best results of any through my S&W Model 10.

[dale2242]

I need to get my 4 cavity 358477 mold out and get a bunch of them cast.
I just discovered I am completely out.
What a slacker.....dale

[Char-Gar]

Here's some data from RCBS Cast Bullet Manual No. 1 for the 38-150 swc in 38 special. These top end loads are definitely plus P, but I have shot thousands of the WW-231 starting load and quite a few of the 4.0 grain Bullseye load as well from a 1960's era pencil barrel S&W M-10. I would not try the top end loads in any 38 revolver not rated for plus p.

POWDER START MAX
IMR 4227 11.6 12.6
H110____ 9.7--10.7
2400____ 9.2--10.2
231_____ 4.5--5.0
BULLSEYE__ 4.0--4.5
700X____ 3.5--4.0

There is no way in hades, I would run 4.0 to 4.5 grains of Bullseye in any 38 Special revolver.

[runfiverun]

I'm even a half grain below that books starting load with 231 and the 477.
it seems to shoot straight and stay stable over distance and has good penetration on stuff.

[ikarus1]

Based on this thread I purchased a 358477 4 cav Lyman with handles and will be developing my own 38 loads with this fine SWC. From what I've read in other places this just made might be the last 38 caliber mold I need

Right now I have been using the Lee TL358-158SWC which drops ovalish bullets between 358 and 360 with COWW

Wanting to PC and size these

[TexasGrunt]

I have a 358477 and it's my most used SWC in .38 and .357.

I just load it over 4 gr of Bullseye for both.

[Jack Stanley]

I'll admit I shoot way more of the round nose bullets than these but when it's hunting time . I'd much rather use the 358477 . Mine is the older hundred and fifty grain version and it shoots way better than I can .

Jack

[ikarus1]

I'll admit I shoot way more of the round nose bullets than these but when it's hunting time . I'd much rather use the 358477 . Mine is the older hundred and fifty grain version and it shoots way better than I can .

Jack

Yep mine is older and it throws around 154gr with COWW and a bit of tin

[Whitespider]

They drop at 156 grains from my Lyman branded mold (COWW).
My Combat Masterpiece likes 4.5 grains of W231 with this boolit.


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[ikarus1]

Man those are some purty SWCs.

I find that around 3.4gr of BE gives me a nice steel target shooting load from my 64 no dash K frame. But its a bit stout for my 637-2

[jonp]

Not forgotten by me. The 148-150 gr works great in my 357. I go lighter in my 38sp for the most part but I just plink with them

[bob208]

I have the rcbs mold that is close. I went to it from the 358429 to save lead..it shoots good in all my pistols. even when I load it up to skeeter load levels.

[Bazoo]

Found a great article by Glen Fryxell about the 358477.

http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell358477HP.htm

That was a good article, thanks for posting.

[Hi-Speed]

Old thread but still applies. Great bullet. Along with the Lyman 358429, the Lyman 358477 is a favorite of mine in my Ruger 357 Magnum BH. I use 13.5 grs 2400 behind the 155 gr 358477 (I also use the same charge under generic 158 gr cast SWC’s) for an all purpose magnum load and is what I carry most when I’m off to the range.

For 150-155 gr 358477s in 38 Special, I would use the time honored 3.5 grs Bullseye charge usually earmarked for the 158 gr, close enough I say. In 38 Spl +P you’d be better served using 5.6 grs Power Pistol with the 358477.

[Oregon_Dan]

1_Ogre,
A long long time ago in a place far, far away, when I was much younger and shooting PPC competitively, I made, and shot hundreds of those with a load very similar to yours. Still have my Lyman 4 cavity mold, somewhere.....

[jdgabbard]

I've got a two cavity. It's always been accurate with 4.0gr of Unique. But I've always been told the 5.0gr was the standard loading. Wish I had a decent 4-cavity mold, but what I have will do for me. Although, mine throws boolits closer to 158gr.