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Thread: where to get .22 rimfire bullets by themselves?

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    where to get .22 rimfire bullets by themselves?

    Anybody know a supplier of .223/.224 bullets as used in rimfires by themselves?
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    Pak: .22 LR bullets are not like normal bullets. They are what is known as "healed" meaning there is a smaller part of the bullet that protrudes into the case mouth and is crimped in place when the round is assembled. If you notice, the case is the same diameter as the driving bands of the bullet.

    This is not true of most cartridges as the case mouth is nearly always bigger than the bullet since the bullet generally fits inside the case mouth.

    You would have to have someone make you a special mould and cast your own to solve this problem.

    I have never seen bullets like this for sale alone. Pretty sure nobody else has either.

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    Don’t believe primed brass is still available. Last I saw was a couple of years ago from Armscor. I have seen 22 heeled bullets in the past it’s been a long time. A seller had 35K of plated 40 grainers on Gunbrokers or ebay 4 or 5 years ago.

    North American Arms sells 22 cal. cap and ball bullets that look to be heeled. Custom mold and cast would be your best option. I am thinking about doing some black powder 22LR's just for grins

    http://northamericanarms.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=bullets%2C+100+count%2C22+caliber%2C+30+grain%2 C+cap%26ball

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?91395-Cast-22-Heeled-Bullets

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?92784-primed-22lr-brass

    how the black powder loaders are doing it.
    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?167745-Black-Powder-22-s

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?132172-22LR-Black-Powder-Reloads-How-to-Make-Them

    http://www.theopenrange.net/forum/in...p?topic=6080.0

    22 LR reloading kit
    http://22lrreloader.com/
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    As usual, I stand corrected. Apparently they are available. Some interesting reading in those threads.

    I was kind of interested in the reloading kit at http://22lrreloader.com/ ,,, right up until I saw the $189.95 price tag.

    My Gawd. you can buy a lot of .22lr for $189.95,,,but I guess that if you needed to reload .22's then it could eventually pay for itself.

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    I have some of the NAA CB swagings. I was hoping to find something in the 40 gr neighborhood. Got greedy when somebody sold some plated 34 gr-ers on here....HP's no less. If I could find the post again I would offer to buy a few...

    RWS sells 41 gr in Europe in .224 size for AG use in 100m BR...these are R50 target bullets IIRC in .224. Would quite like to get some in .223 and .224. The Heel is no issue as far as I can see. The TJ 14", .224/.219 barrel is perhaps 60% land and cast nose riders from a 225353 mold do OK. Need slightly longer chamber for even a 225107 sized .224 to chamber properly...and the '353 probably won't mind too much.
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    Douglas
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    Douglas, wouldn't you need "pure" lead for airgun bullets? Of course, I don't know that .22LR bullets are not pure lead.
    Can you tell us a little more about your rifle/airgun, I think a lot of people here would find it very interesting.

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    The air rifle used to be a Marauder in .22-pellet. It got a .224 barrel, a 53 ci bottle and a big valve. It will currently spit 46 gr out at 100 FPE.

    It is certainly not eating pure lead right now. current cast is 20:1...and IDK what sorts of alloy is used in the usual 22LR, but it sure is not all that hard. I can live with 40:1 just as easily...so it would seem a fine spread in allowable hardness as long as there is enough Tin to cast very well.

    I can't get over the idea of swaged bullets being more consistent...who knows 'til I pulls the trigger though, eh?
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    Douglas
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    They are hard but not impossible to find.

    In my experience they have no practical use.

    Loaded to about 1000 fps they produced quail gun patterns at 50 yards from my .22 hornet and .222 Remington.

    Get yourself some conventional cast bullets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Tecs View Post

    North American Arms sells 22 cal. cap and ball bullets that look to be heeled.
    I have attached Hornady 22 caliber gas checks to these bullets using a Lee .224 or .225 sizing die. I still need to test these at various velocities in the 22 Hornet. I may be on to a great 22 LongRifle /22 Magnum substitute load.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check