Finally shot csb-1 in 38 special and 45acp. Used 3.9 grains with Lyman 158 swc and 3.5 grains for Lee 148 wc. 45 acp was 4.8 grains with Lee 1R RN at 1.200. Don't have a chrono or anything but everything went well and did not seem to be as dirty as Bullseye I shot. Will use it for a awhile.