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    Smelting lead ????

    I"ve been smelting lead flashing, 4 pots total about 65#. first two pots were mostly pipe flashing and had what looked like a silver ring around where the pipe to roof pieces were put together. Second 2 pots were all just flat flashing. first 2 pots the ingots came out silver in color, second 2 came out with a dark color rainbow to say. What is the difference if any? Is there some tin in one or was there possibly just a temp difference causing the color difference. All my coww and range scrap always come out silvery.

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    I think it was just a heat issue, got too hot as you progressed in your smelting session. Best to use a thermometer and keep heat just above melting temps as you proceed...keep a smelting...tx.
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    The colors come from getting the lead hotter.
    But you could certainly have some tin in those first 2 batches, since those 'silver' rings didn't have the same patina color of the rest of the lead flashing.
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    I think my temp was pretty uniform,I was casting nearby and watching while casting. Right after the lead flashing I smelted about 125# of coww with all the same silvery color that I normally get. I'm thinking I've got some small amouts of tin in the first two pots which kept it silvery, and the purplish rainbow is closer to 100%. Just scratching my head, because this is my first flashing melt. It's hard to push coww down a CVA muzzle gun. Accurate, but a pita to load.

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    Yesterday I finally got around to sorting out the funky weights/trash from the pile of pails I have amassed since last year, my guess is 700+ lbs sitting in 5 gal. pails. I`ll do the smelting process when colder weather arrives.Robert

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    Ship it to me, I'll smelt it for you. then let you know how it shoots.

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    Rainbow colors are normal for pure lead! Forget about it!

    Those "silver rings" were solder where the pipes were joined together. Adding even a small amount of Sn to your melt will make it shiny and nice. But it will quickly oxidize at normal smelting temps. That is why you need to flux/reduce 3x. You other batch was pure Pb with probably ZERO Sn and was technicolor.

    Both are perfectly fine.

    Your COWW's have ~0.5% Sn normally.

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    What are you using for your CVA.

    My brother bought one not to long ago and I want to start casting bullets for him. Do you use sabots with your bullets?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1johnlb View Post
    I think my temp was pretty uniform,I was casting nearby and watching while casting. Right after the lead flashing I smelted about 125# of coww with all the same silvery color that I normally get. I'm thinking I've got some small amouts of tin in the first two pots which kept it silvery, and the purplish rainbow is closer to 100%. Just scratching my head, because this is my first flashing melt. It's hard to push coww down a CVA muzzle gun. Accurate, but a pita to load.

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    Lee's black powder REAL mold 90394/no sabots for me

    Clip on wheel weight= way to hard/but accurate

    100% lead is what surposed to be used

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