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Thread: Fitting a Pneumatic Case Feed on The Lee Load Master

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    Fitting a Pneumatic Case Feed on The Lee Load Master

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MjppGMY7XE

    This in my initial test for fit and function. It went much better than I had expected, nothing broke and function was as intended (albeit a little more vigorous then expected).


    I never really cared for the case feed mechanism on the Load Master even though It works and I have no problems getting it to function. I always felt it made operating the press feel heavier than need be.

    Realistically, the pneumatics make the operation of the lever feel about 15% lighter.
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    Looks good!

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    Interesting.

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    Hi 44,
    Cool! That looks pretty slick! How is your confidence level on the priming system? Just wondering if that will raise it's ugly head when you start loading for real???
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    Seagiant, I still operate the original (1992) style priming system and have never experienced the issues reported by others!

    A couple of things to always remember when running a LM:

    1. The press needs to be secure to a solid bench.
    You would think that's a given, it's not!

    2. Keep the priming feed chute full at times (as soon as the tray is empty refill it!) The system is a gravity feed.
    Why operators doggedly refuse to keep an eye on the priming tray I will never understand.

    3. Always run the ram stroke stop to stop! No limp wrist, half *** pull/push.

    4. (Perhaps the most important rule of all) IF IT DOES NOT FEEL RIGHT, STOP AND FIND OUT WHY? DO NOT PULL/PUSH HARDER. EVER!!

    In terms of the current modification, the shuttle piston also provides 2 nice vibrations when it fires that rattle the feed chute. This should help to keep the primers flowing.

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    44Vaquero,

    That looks fantastic! Could you post some pictures of the pneumatic setup from various angles and a parts list? I'm very interested. That could be adapted to many presses it looks like.

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    I would install a flow regulator to slow down the cylinder.
    Other then that it looks GREAT
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    Hatch, you are correct. The test was preformed using 60 psi of line pressure, I have since dialed it down to 20-25 psi with no loss in performance. You should see it run @ 100 psi! Silly fast! the cylinder is rated for 110 psi max. In this application it should last a very long time!

    I have ordered a Line-in Flow Control to assist the full size regulator.
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    44Vaquero,

    I got an email where you tried to send me a PM, but my inbox was full. Please resend. I've cleaned out my mess. Dang, didn't know there was so much old stuff in there. My apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44Vaquero View Post
    Seagiant, I still operate the original (1992) style priming system and have never experienced the issues reported by others!

    A couple of things to always remember when running a LM:

    1. The press needs to be secure to a solid bench.
    You would think that's a given, it's not!

    2. Keep the priming feed chute full at times (as soon as the tray is empty refill it!) The system is a gravity feed.
    Why operators doggedly refuse to keep an eye on the priming tray I will never understand.

    3. Always run the ram stroke stop to stop! No limp wrist, half *** pull/push.

    4. (Perhaps the most important rule of all) IF IT DOES NOT FEEL RIGHT, STOP AND FIND OUT WHY? DO NOT PULL/PUSH HARDER. EVER!!

    In terms of the current modification, the shuttle piston also provides 2 nice vibrations when it fires that rattle the feed chute. This should help to keep the primers flowing.

    Hey, How about that! This is 1000th post!!
    Hi 44,
    Ha!,Yes, YOU have to supply the brains! Some people aren't really good with that!!! Thanks!
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    Dave, I am still getting the inbox full message when attempting to pm you?
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    Evidentally I had to delete all the outgoing messages. I notice my Patron badge is missing as well, even though I had an automatic thing setup with paypal. Reckon I'm going to have to straighten that out.

    Anyways, I got the in and out box cleaned out. Please re-pm one more time. Thank you for your patience.

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    close-ups of the pistion and slider

    Close-ups of the case slide assembly.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails pistonretracted.jpg   pistionextended (2).jpg  
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    I like it.


    I have ordered a Line-in Flow Control to assist the full size regulator.
    A vise grip clamped on the line would work until it arrives.

    What valve did you use?

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    jmorris,

    A generic 2 position 5 way with a roller lever. The supply line is 1/4 but the lines from the valve to the piston 5/32. It uses so little air to function that I did not even realize the compressor has been unplugged for the last couple of days!
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    Looks great. Congratulations on the early problem solving for this new system.
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    Ok, Here is a clip showing the entire system up and running producing loaded ammo. The force required for actual operations is significantly reduced compared to the stock case slider set-up.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13GSqIq-OyQ
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    Is that a besales autococker ram without qevs?

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    Waltherboy4040,

    No it is not, it is actually a mini-pneumatic industrial air cylinder in the smaller sizes they are manufactured in 1/2 inch increments. I originally stated that it was good to 108 psi, that was incorrect. The valve is good to 108 psi but these air cylinders are good to 250 psi!! Projected life span at 20 psi a very, very long time!
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    How about a parts list with where they can be purchased from?

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