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    25 acp rifle?

    Has anyone here ever shot or hAd one made? I'm seriously thinking about it simply for the reloadable aspect. Any and all information is greatly appreciated.

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    Not sure if it ever got completed, but I believe dk17hmr was putting together a single shot.
    More "This is what happened when I,,,,," and less "What would happen if I,,,,"

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    .25 ACP is not the cheapest, or the easiest to load for. Any reason why you want that particular round? Finding a rifle in something like 25-20 or 32-20 might be a easier solution. You may be able to find one in something like 32 S&W Long or 32 H&R Magnum. All are good small game getters if you do your part.

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=436319078

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=435938493

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=435207673

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=435766403

    If you want a rifle chambered for 25 ACP, you going to have to have one built/modified.

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    There is a thread on here by a member called Crank. He is modifying a .22 cal rifle to feed and function with .25 ACP. It's not as easy as it sounds, but doable.

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    I saw one on a browning bl-22 some years back and it was a very nice and reliable conversion but the cost was way beyond worthwhile along with the cost of ammo or the hassle of loading .25 acp for it. Unless you have a LOT OF MONEY to burn just get a .22 or .22mag or one of the other calibers mentioned above, you will be many dollars ahead.

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    my reason is simple, I have a bunch of 25 auto cases and a boatload of patience.

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    I have looked into making one since it is pretty much going to be a one off custom. It just seems easier to use something like the .25-20 or .25 Hornet. Easier to reload, customize, find barrels, or even find one already set up for those. I think the reason they pop up occasionally as repeaters is because they can fit in some .22 rimfire rifles with some work. If you really wanted one, you could start with something like a rolling block. TJ's makes proper .251" liners for the barrel, make or rework the extractor, and cut the chamber. The .251" bore is what stops me. If I don't like it or get tired of it, it cannot be reamed to something bigger like .25-20.

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    The 25 ACP has such a small case volume that your loads will be truly a work of art.

    How much $$$ are you thinking of throwing at defining the outer limits? Myself, a 6.35x25 (25 Tokarev) would be interesting. Use the 65 grain boolits.

    After some belated thought, how about a rimmed case (assuming this is a single shot)?

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    Is it possible to spin/ elongate the 25 acp case.? Kinda thinking about a 25acp long. I don't know the correct term but pressure is applied to the case while it is on a mandrel, that is spinning in a lathe.

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    There is a usefull and long thread about this: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...le-what-powder

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    I loaded 25ACP once! Never again! Buy a 22 LR!
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    Quote Originally Posted by psweigle View Post
    my reason is simple, I have a bunch of 25 auto cases and a boatload of patience.
    It had better be a BIG boat.

    There used to be some .22 centerfire rounds in straight case configuration. They are tough to get brass for.

    My suggestion? Scrap the .25 ACP brass and go for .25-20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattlesnake Charlie View Post
    There used to be some .22 centerfire rounds in straight case configuration. They are tough to get brass for.
    22 Velo-Dog. Last time I saw some, it was import Fiocchi [the round was never popular here in the U.S.; it was a Yurpeen thang...] and was about $30 for a box of 20? [That's right, a pistol round sold in rifle-sized boxes. Evil deception...]

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    I got 1,000 .251" FMJ RN 50 gr bullets for $10 a few years back.
    The only long .251" groove barrels I have seen were the Redman liners.
    I have done various overload experiments on the 25acp.
    It can make painful recoil.

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    If ya gotta have one, maybe do an insert barrel on a break-open .410 shotgun, using the liner for the insert barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    I got 1,000 .251" FMJ RN 50 gr bullets for $10 a few years back.
    The only long .251" groove barrels I have seen were the Redman liners.
    I have done various overload experiments on the 25acp.
    It can make painful recoil.
    Painful recoil, from a 25 acp? What the heck were you loading them with?

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    You beat me to it.! 25 acp and painful recoil from a rifle just doesn't add up.
    May be better off with insert for shotgun to get best use of caliber. For example. .6", 10" insert in 410 or 20ga.
    You could use a H+R slugger with rifle sights.

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    I'm pretty sure I don't want to go down the path of reloading 25ACP. It would take more than one boatload of patience for me.

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    Coffeecup,
    i have thought about that route, it may be a cheap way out. Thanks for the reply.

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    Janoosh,
    I saw some of those somewhere, i guess if you epoxied the thing in it would work. i may go that route. Thank you.

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