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Thread: 44-40 Win with Wano Sporting Powder

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    44-40 Win with Wano Sporting Powder

    Load 28 grs of Wano Sporting Powder FFFg covered with a Milkcarton and set a RCBS Bullet on Top
    Emmerts Lube

    15 Shots
    No Blowtube no wiping on 50 m

    Hege Uberti Winchester `73

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    will try a grease Cookie next Time

    Klaus

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    Why such a light load?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobade View Post
    Why such a light load?

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    recommended by .44WCF aka John Kort at CascityForum

    28 grs. are mentioned at the original Winchester Cataloge
    And as a load for the Henry.

    all Impacts in the white are depending on me by standing freehand shooting.

    Klaus

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    Aah, I see!

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    Klaus,
    Nice shooting from the offhand position

    My apologies for not going into a bit more detail about the load that UMC offered. http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/ind...c,52963.0.html

    I had casually mentioned that UMC would have used a wad..... based on my making and shooting some of these cartridges the wad thickness would likely have been at least 3/16" (5mm) thick. They likely would have compressed the powder charge a bit first or compressed it with the wad in place. Hard to say.

    Anyway, as I mentioned, I used PSB (Poly Shot Buffer) to fill the space between the powder and the bullet since I do not have wads of the proper thickness. Cream of Wheat or Corn Meal would likely work as well.

    I found that historic loading when assembled as above, would produce groups at 100 yards in the 2-3" range from the bench.

    Have fun!
    w30wcf
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    .22 W.C.F., .30 W.C.F., .44 W.C.F. Cartridge Historian

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    Quote Originally Posted by w30wcf View Post
    Klaus,
    Nice shooting from the offhand position

    My apologies for not going into a bit more detail about the load that UMC offered. http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/ind...c,52963.0.html

    I had casually mentioned that UMC would have used a wad..... based on my making and shooting some of these cartridges the wad thickness would likely have been at least 3/16" (5mm) thick. They likely would have compressed the powder charge a bit first or compressed it with the wad in place. Hard to say.

    Anyway, as I mentioned, I used PSB (Poly Shot Buffer) to fill the space between the powder and the bullet since I do not have wads of the proper thickness. Cream of Wheat or Corn Meal would likely work as well.

    I found that historic loading when assembled as above, would produce groups at 100 yards in the 2-3" range from the bench.

    Have fun!
    w30wcf
    Morning w30wcf,

    have you got any pics about the reduced 28 grs. of 44-40 Win loads at your side ?

    You have got showing some broken Loads of 44-40 Win on other sides

    Klaus

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    Morning Klaus,
    I'm not sure what you are asking for. Are you looking for a sectioned 28 gr. cartridge that would Show the powder, wad and bullet? I could make up one with what I think UMC used and take a picture of it. I have an original bullet I pulled from UMC cases containing 40 grs. Of b.p. that I would use in the pic.

    Broken loads - Are you thinking about a cartridge that has had the powder and bullet removed and a picture of those?

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