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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Tecs View Post
    I don’t have a 327 Federal but a couple of friends have them and they love them. The only issue I have is the .311 bore size. If it was.308 I would have one.

    I do not like misinformation. Below is my response to what I believe is misinformation.





    Comparing the flattest 327 Federal load to the flattest 357 shows 32.1 drop for the 327 and 34.8 drop for the 357. www.federalpremium.com/Ballistics_Calculator



    Not even close to the 460 S&W factory velocity of 2300 fps http://www.corbon.com/corboncart/ht460sw200-20

    http://www.speer-bullets.com/pdf/327...File_Final.pdf

    http://www.speer-bullets.com/pdf/327...8_DataFile.pdf

    http://www.ballistics101.com/327_magnum.php

    http://www.ballistics101.com/357_magnum.php

    http://www.ballistics101.com/460_sw.php




    Not even close to the 65,000 PSI of the 454 Casull and 460 S&W

    http://www.ballistics101.com/460_sw.php

    http://www.lasc.us/SAAMIMaxPressure.htm
    Haha I just saw this. Well you got me on the velocity and pressure because I never even had a desire to read about either round. I guess if I include the T/C Encore with belted magnums, I would be wrong again but I draw the line when it comes sanity and practicality. The two fisted hand cannons aren't a practical trail gun, unless it's in Jurasic Park.

    As far as trajectory goes for the 357 and the 327, I go by personal experiences, not data tables that were generated to sell a product. I shoot them both and I don't rely on second hand information about either. No misinformation here.

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    Interesting. I shoot competition out to a 1,000 yards with rifle and 600 yards for fun with handgun. The ballistic calculators have been very close on for both drop and wind. With cast boolits and BPCR rifles determining the correct ballistic coefficient is the biggest challenge. Most of the mold maker just take a WAG as to the BC.

    The 454 Casull and 460 S&W are both revolver cartridges first and foremost.

    How External Ballistics Programs Work
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    Nice app. for your I-phone http://ballisticapp.com/

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    Sources of Ballistic Program Inaccuracies
    http://www.arcanamavens.com/LBSFiles...oads/Programs/

    Bottom line is they work. Compare the flatest 327 factory to the flatest 357 factory and they are very close in drop with the 327 being slightly flatter. Compare the flatest 327 & 357 reloads and will find the 357 has less drop.

    The 357 with 125 bullets can be loaded to some impressive speeds http://handloads.com/loaddata/defaul...locity&Source=
    Last edited by M-Tecs; 01-30-2015 at 01:34 PM.

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    32s are economical on lead for sure.
    The .32s stand alone in their niche and offer the handloader many avenues to pursue.
    Accurate, low recoil , the best for small game and fun to shoot.
    The new .327 surpasses the 32-20 and the 25-20 for game .
    Not worried about self defense, but any firearm depends on shot placement.
    A .327 in the brisket or forehead would cause a greivous wound.
    Any owner who had one and said they got rid of it because it didn't do what they expected, is just an uninformed shooter.
    Most shooters say they wish they hadn't got rid of it.
    The ammo is lighter to carry and takes up less space.
    I make no comparisons to .38 or -357 . The 32 does what i want in the niche where it sits very well.
    I love it as well as the Henry rifle in .327.
    That rifle will be the reduced load, catsneeze shooter to replace my 30 calibers.
    Expensive, but well made high quality.
    Just my 2cents.

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    Shot an Antelope last fall with my 8 shot 327 using a 135 gr cast HP at 73 yds. One shot through both lungs,she got turned around & took one step & down. Complete penetration.

    Dick

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixshot View Post
    Shot an Antelope last fall with my 8 shot 327 using a 135 gr cast HP at 73 yds. One shot through both lungs,she got turned around & took one step & down. Complete penetration.

    Dick
    Sounds like the theoretical and range info holds up in the field! That big old BH 8 shooter is a stud hoss, isn’t it? At first I wasn’t too sure whether I would like it, but mine sorta grew on me. I wouldn’t want to give it up now.

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    I've had a Ruger SSM for 30+yrs, shot everything in it from .32S&W up to .32H&R Mag loaded beyond book. Even shove a couple of .32ACP's into see if they really do work.

    I'd buy one of the 7 1/2" Ruger's in .327Mag if it wsn't a 7 shooter. Like the idea of 2 more inches of bbl over my 5 1/2" H&R.
    For me Revolvers are either 5 shots or a 6 Shooter. I do like the idea of the 7 1/2" bbl though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixshot View Post
    Shot an Antelope last fall with my 8 shot 327 using a 135 gr cast HP at 73 yds. One shot through both lungs,she got turned around & took one step & down. Complete penetration.

    Dick
    This is good to know for what it dose on a animal and at how far tells me what I was wondering about ,I have a 8 shot BH when they came out and like it,I am glad I got it for how it is now. I am making payments on a SP101 in 4". I know it is hard to find data for that size boolit. I have a 121 size one I work on my BH. Also had a Handi rifle made to shoot 327 mag. The adventure looks great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walks View Post
    I've had a Ruger SSM for 30+yrs, shot everything in it from .32S&W up to .32H&R Mag loaded beyond book. Even shove a couple of .32ACP's into see if they really do work.

    I'd buy one of the 7 1/2" Ruger's in .327Mag if it wsn't a 7 shooter. Like the idea of 2 more inches of bbl over my 5 1/2" H&R.
    For me Revolvers are either 5 shots or a 6 Shooter. I do like the idea of the 7 1/2" bbl though.

    Just My Opinion.
    I've got A BUNCH of 327 guns, and do have the 71/2 inch single seven, on the single seven it almost feels like a buntline barrel! It's my least favourite 327, but different courses for different horses! O, and 5,6,7,8,9,10, are all good numbers in a wheel gun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trapper9260 View Post
    This is good to know for what it dose on a animal and at how far tells me what I was wondering about ,I have a 8 shot BH when they came out and like it,I am glad I got it for how it is now. I am making payments on a SP101 in 4". I know it is hard to find data for that size boolit. I have a 121 size one I work on my BH. Also had a Handi rifle made to shoot 327 mag. The adventure looks great.
    The heaviest bullet you will find in a reloading manual is 115 grains, as you are aware. Fortunately, many of us have realized what a waste such a light bullet is in this caliber, and finding data online for 135 and 140 grain bullets is no longer difficult. The 32 sledgehammer is a 140 grain solid or 135 grain HP, and has been around long enough you shouldn't have any troubles with it.

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    The .327 absolutely SHINES with a heavy bullet. The sledgehammer is a great bullet as is the Mjolnir.

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