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    [QUOTE=Green Frog;2873654]I respectfully disagree... if you want a sound platform, both to contain a potential 40,000 PSI round and give you something to hold onto, it is the perfect frame size. Think in terms of your hottest 32-20 loadings... they go very well in a mid-size frame, don't they?

    Understanding comes with familiarization. The 327, with its greater case capacity and strength, has the ability to do it all. You can load the case as hot as practical for hunting or defense or load mild FM rounds (or use 32 acp, 32 S&W & S&W L, or 32 H&R cases to tailor your loads in the same gun) and do just about anything with it that can be done with any but the truly big bore revolvers.

    I guess I'm beginning to sound like an old time evangelist, but that's my experience, and that's how I feel. YMMV.

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    I got the 327 for the reason that you have stated for all the cases you can shoot in it.because of the way 22lr are going if I start to run short of them for my trap line I will use my BH and shoot 32 S&W or 32acp for the trap line.It is also a gun that take some getting use to but after you are then you will be hook like some that have posted on here.Also since i can shoot 32acp in t I got my self a 32auto that way I can use the same ammo in both guns. the 32acp is my pocket gun it is a Kel-tec p32 and will stick with cast in it because it shoots better then factory rounds in it.
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    The OP's original question is in regards to how those of us who have ordered a Single Seven plan to feed them and that question has been answered obliquely in several posts but not directly. Most of us who have some version of .32 caliber handgun already have dies, brass, primers, bullet molds and powder on hand. In my case, I also have a fair number of jacketed bullets sitting on the shelf if I decide to load them. For those who are not set up already, factory ammo can be turned into empty brass pretty quickly. If ammo is not available locally, most of the online shooting supply stores have ammo in stock in the various .32s . Starline makes several runs a year of the .32 S&W Long, .32 H&R Magnum, and .327 Federal Magnum brass and they will notify you when it is available if you set up an account. Primers seem to be more available than in the past both locally and online. Appropriate powders seem to be the hardest component to get but if you already have fast to moderately fast pistol powders on hand you should be set. Reloading dies for the .32 H&R Magnum will work with all the .32 caliber cartridges and they are available online if you can't find them locally. For those that do not cast, several of the commercial casters have .32 caliber bullets available and several brands of jacketed bullets are available online.

    I started my affair with the .32 during the height of the reloading component shortage and had to go the factory ammo route to get empty brass but other than that, components have not been too hard to get. Over time I have built up my stockpile of .32 S&W Long, .32 H&R Magnum and .327 Federal Magnum brass as it became available from Starline and am now set for the foreseeable future. Nonetheless, as brass becomes available, I will continue to add to the stockpile.

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    i have never once seen 327 ammo in a store
    BUT i admire the knowledge that you gentlemen have
    and that alone is enough to make me want to take a good hard look at the cartridge and guns that use it.
    i always figured that a 357 can do anything the 327 can and still fire 38 as well.
    but maybe i am on the wrong track?

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    The 327 is my absolute all time favorite sixgun cartridge. I have owned several full on customs but my current favorite is a FA97 5.5" octagon. I run a 135 grain hollowpoint at 1400 fps with ease. Whats not to like????

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclebill View Post
    i have never once seen 327 ammo in a store
    BUT i admire the knowledge that you gentlemen have
    and that alone is enough to make me want to take a good hard look at the cartridge and guns that use it.
    i always figured that a 357 can do anything the 327 can and still fire 38 as well.
    but maybe i am on the wrong track?
    On the wrong track indeed. It's flat shooting and a handloaders dream. I bought 10 boxes of ammo over the past 5 years and i have 1,200 pieces of new brass so I'm good a long time. I just wish more companies would chamber the round in their rifles. The NEF Handi would be great in the 327. Just as owners of current 327 guns can enjoy the 32 mag, 32 S&W Long and 32 Auto, this enjoyment would spill over to rifle use as well. Often, I struggle to understand how such good things can become so unfavorable but the 327 is one round that should prosper, based on performance alone. I've used a 3x6 Bushnell on my Blackhawk already and I was amazed how flat and accurate it can be.

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    [QUOTE=unclebill;2874418]i have never once seen 327 ammo in a store

    I guess my local gun store is better stocked than others, as I still see it on the shelves.

    i always figured that a 357 can do anything the 327 can and still fire 38 as well.

    You are generally correct, especially on the top end loads, but for cheap, easy to load, easy to shoot, fun family of cartridges, the .32s are hard to beat. You can get the .32 S&W Long to shoot powder puff loads for the recoil shy or new shooter, you can go to full bore .327 Federal for more serious applications, or you can go somewhere in the middle with the .32 H&R. Guns chambered for the .327 Federal will allow you to safely hotrod the .32 S&W Long and the .32 H&R, if you choose to do so.

    To paraphrase our current commander in chief, if you are happy with your .357 magnum, you can keep your .357 magnum. On the other hand, if you are looking for an excuse to try something different, a firearm chambered for the .327 Federal will keep you busy for a long time.


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    OK! You guys did it to me I'm on the list to get one of these small bore wonders!

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    [QUOTE=Gus Youmans;2874479]
    Quote Originally Posted by unclebill View Post
    i have never once seen 327 ammo in a store

    I guess my local gun store is better stocked than others, as I still see it on the shelves.

    i always figured that a 357 can do anything the 327 can and still fire 38 as well.

    You are generally correct, especially on the top end loads, but for cheap, easy to load, easy to shoot, fun family of cartridges, the .32s are hard to beat. You can get the .32 S&W Long to shoot powder puff loads for the recoil shy or new shooter, you can go to full bore .327 Federal for more serious applications, or you can go somewhere in the middle with the .32 H&R. Guns chambered for the .327 Federal will allow you to safely hotrod the .32 S&W Long and the .32 H&R, if you choose to do so.

    To paraphrase our current commander in chief, if you are happy with your .357 magnum, you can keep your .357 magnum. On the other hand, if you are looking for an excuse to try something different, a firearm chambered for the .327 Federal will keep you busy for a long time.


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    The trajectory of the 357, compared to the 327 is nothing close. There is very little "Hold Over" with the 327 out to 200 yards. You might want to refigure

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    Quote Originally Posted by unclebill View Post
    i have never once seen 327 ammo in a store
    Maybe its time to find a new store, or order online This was in stock as of posting this message on gunbot:


    Speer 327 Federal 115 Grain Gold Dot Hollow Point $1.18/rd [$23.65] SelfDefense [Buds]
    FEDERAL 327 FED MAG 85 GR SOFT POINT 50 ROUNDS FEDAE327A $0.54/rd [$26.79] Hunting [3rd Generation]
    FEDERAL 327 FED MAG 100 GR JSP 50 ROUNDS FEDAE327 $0.54/rd [$26.79] Hunting [3rd Generation]
    AMERICAN EAGLE AMMO 327FEDERAL JSP AE327 50 BOX $0.62/rd [$30.99] Hunting [Trop]
    FEDERAL AMMO 327FED HYDRA-SHOK PD327HS1H 20 BOX $1.20/rd [$23.99] SelfDefense [Trop]
    SPEER AMMO 327FED GOLD DOT HP 23914 20 BOX $1.25/rd [$24.99] SelfDefense [Trop]
    FED .327 FEDERAL MAGNUM PREM HYDRA-SHOK-JHP PERSONAL DEFENSE 85gr 20rds $2.00/rd [$39.99] SelfDefense [Ammobank]
    SPEER .327 FEDERAL MAGNUM GOLD-DOT HP 115gr 20rds $1.67/rd [$33.32] SelfDefense [Ammobank]
    FED .327 FEDERAL MAGNUM Soft Point 85gr 50rds $0.90/rd [$45.02] Hunting [Ammobank]
    American Eagle AE327 Jacketed Soft Point 50RD 100gr 327 Federal Magnum $0.58/rd [$28.99] Hunting [Buds]
    Federal PD327HS1 Hydra-Shok Jacketed Hollow Point 50RD 85gr 327 Federal Magnum $0.42/rd [$21.15] SelfDefense [Buds]
    American Eagle AE327A Jacket Soft Point 50RD 85gr 327 Federal Magnum $0.51/rd [$25.70] Hunting [Buds]
    Federal American Eagle Pistol Ammunition AE327A, 327 Federal Magnum, Jacketed Soft Point (SP), 85 GR, 1400 fps, 50 round $0.53/rd [$26.26] Hunting [Able Ammo]
    Buffalo Bore Rifle Ammunition 37A/20, 327 Federal Magnum, Jacketed Hollow Point (JHP), 100 GR, 1450 fps, 20 Rd/Bx $1.29/rd [$25.87] SelfDefense [Able Ammo]
    Speer Gold Dot Handgun Ammunition 23913, 327 Federal Magnum, Gold Dot Hollow Point (HP), 100 GR, 1500 fps, 20 Rd/bx $1.09/rd [$21.72] SelfDefense [Able Ammo]
    Buffalo Bore Rifle Ammunition 37B/20, 327 Federal Magnum, Hard Cast, 130 GR, 1300 fps, 20 Rd/Bx $1.29/rd [$25.87] [Able Ammo]
    Federal American Eagle .327 Federal Magnum 100gr JSP 50rds AE327 $0.52/rd [$25.99] Hunting [PSA]
    Speer Gold Dot .327 Federal Mag 115gr. GDHP 20rds 23914 $1.00/rd [$19.99] SelfDefense [PSA]
    Federal American Eagle .327 Federal Magnum 85gr SP AE327A $0.53/rd [$26.49] Hunting [PSA]
    Federal .327 Federal Mag Reduced Recoil 85gr Hydra-Shok JHP 20rds PD327HS1 H $1.05/rd [$20.99] SelfDefense [PSA]
    Federal American Eagle .327 Federal Magnum 100 Gr. JSP- Box of 50 $0.47/rd [$23.50] Hunting [Selway Armory]
    Federal Premium Personal Defense .327 Federal Magnum 85 Gr. Reduced Recoil Hydra-Shok Jacketed Hollow Point- Box of 20 $0.90/rd [$17.99] SelfDefense [Selway Armory]
    Speer Gold Dot .327 Federal Magnum 100 Gr. Jacketed Hollow Point- Box of 20 $0.95/rd [$18.99] SelfDefense [Selway Armory]
    500rds - 327 Federal Magnum Federal American Eagle 85gr. Soft Point Ammo $0.52/rd [$259.95] Hunting [Ammunition To Go]
    327 Federal Mag Ammo 85gr Hydra Shok JHP Low Recoil 20 Round Box $0.85/rd [$16.99] SelfDefense [Ammunition Store]
    Speer Gold Dot .327 Federal 100gr JHP 20rds 23913 $1.00/rd [$19.99] SelfDefense [PSA]
    327 MAG SPEER GOLD DOT AMMO, 100GR GDHP, 20RD $1.15/rd [$22.94] SelfDefense [J&G Sales]
    20 Rounds of .327 Federal Mag Ammo by Federal - 85gr JHP $1.08/rd [$21.50] SelfDefense [BulkAmmo]
    50 Rounds of .327 Federal Mag Ammo by Federal - 85gr SP $0.52/rd [$25.75] [BulkAmmo]
    20 Rounds of .327 Federal Mag Ammo by Speer - 115gr JHP $1.08/rd [$21.50] SelfDefense [BulkAmmo]
    20 Rounds of .327 Federal Mag Ammo by Speer - 100gr JHP $1.10/rd [$22.00] SelfDefense [BulkAmmo]
    50rds - 327 Federal Magnum Federal American Eagle 85gr. Soft Point Ammo $0.53/rd [$26.49] Hunting [Ammunition To Go]
    Buffalo Bore Ammunition 37A/20 327 Fed Mag JHP 100GR 20Box/12Case $1.63/rd [$32.69] SelfDefense [iAmmo]
    CCI Speer 23913 327 Federal Magnum 100GR Gold Dot Hollow Point 20Box/25Case $1.37/rd [$27.44] SelfDefense [iAmmo]
    Federal Cartridge American Eagle 327 Federal Magnum 85 Grain Jacketed Soft Point 50 Round Box $0.53/rd [$26.63] Hunting [iAmmo]
    50 rds - 327 Magnum Federal American Eagle 100 grain Jacketed Soft Point Ammo $0.54/rd [$26.95] Hunting [SGAmmo]
    Buffalo Bore Ammo - HEAVY 327 FEDERAL Ammo - 100 gr. JHP (1450fps) - 20 Round Box $1.20/rd [$24.00] SelfDefense [Extreme Impact Ammo]
    Buffalo Bore Ammo - HEAVY 327 FEDERAL Ammo - 130 gr. Hard Cast Keith (1300fps) - 20 Round Box $1.27/rd [$25.30] [Extreme Impact Ammo]
    Speer Gold Dot 327 Federal Mag. 115gr 20rd Box $1.10/rd [$21.99] SelfDefense [Cope's]
    Federal Premium 327 Mag 85gr 20rd box $1.05/rd [$20.99] [Cope's]
    50 rds - 327 Fed Mag American Eagle 100gr JSP AE327 $0.52/rd [$25.99] Hunting [9mmAmmo]
    FAE327A American Eagle 327 Federal Magnum 85gr sp ammunition $23.15 /50 $0.46/rd [$23.15] Hunting [Widener's]
    327 MAG BUFFALO BORE HEAVY AMMO, 1300FPS 130GR JHP, 20RD BOX $1.25/rd [$24.98] SelfDefense [J&G Sales]
    327 MAG BUFFALO BORE HEAVY AMMO, 1450FPS 100GR JHP, 20RD BOX $1.25/rd [$24.98] SelfDefense [J&G Sales]
    Speer Gold Dot Ammunition 327 Federal Magnum 100 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point Box of 20 $1.10/rd [$21.99] SelfDefense [MidwayUSA]
    Buffalo Bore Ammunition 327 Federal 100 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point Box of 20 $1.35/rd [$26.99] SelfDefense [MidwayUSA]
    Buffalo Bore Ammunition 327 Federal 130 Grain Hard Cast Keith Box of 20 $1.40/rd [$27.99] [MidwayUSA]
    Federal .327 Mag. HYDRA-SHOK 85gr JHP 20 rounds(PD327HS1 H) $0.90/rd [$17.93] SelfDefense [Goose Island]
    Speer 327 Fed Mag Gold Dot 100gr HP 20 rounds(23913) $0.92/rd [$18.49] SelfDefense [Goose Island]
    Federal American Eagle - .327 Fed. Mag 85gr SP 50/Box AE327A $0.52/rd [$25.99] Hunting [Natchez]
    Federal American Eagle Ammunition AE327, 327 Federal Mag, Soft Point (SP), 100 GR, 1400 fps, 50 Rd/bx $0.55/rd [$27.71] Hunting [Able Ammo]
    Speer Gold Dot Handgun Ammunition 23914, 327 Federal, Gold Dot Hollow Point (HP), 115 GR, 1300 fps, 20 Rd/bx $1.11/rd [$22.19] SelfDefense [Able Ammo]
    Federal Premium Personal Defense Ammunition PD327HS1, 327 Federal Mag, Jacketed Hollow Point (JHP), 85 GR, 1400 fps, 20 Rd/bx $1.07/rd [$21.43] SelfDefense [Able Ammo]
    Federal Cartridge 327 Federal Magnum 85 Grain Hydra-Shok JHP, 20 Round Box $1.17/rd [$23.31] SelfDefense [iAmmo]
    Federal Personal Defense 327 Federal Magnum Ammo 85 Grain Hydra-Shok Jacketed Hollow Point $1.15/rd [$22.99] SelfDefense [TargetSportsUSA]
    Federal American Eagle 327 Federal Magnum Ammo 100 Grain Jacketed Soft Point $0.54/rd [$26.99] Hunting [TargetSportsUSA]
    Federal Premium Personal Defense Reduced Recoil Ammunition 327 Federal Magnum 85 Grain Hydra-Shok Jacketed Hollow Point Box of 20 $1.07/rd [$21.49] SelfDefense [MidwayUSA]
    20rds - 327 Federal Magnum Federal Hydra-Shok 85gr. Hollow Point Ammo $1.15/rd [$22.95] SelfDefense [Ammunition To Go]
    20rds - 327 Federal Magnum Corbon 75gr. DPX Ammo $1.50/rd [$29.95] SelfDefense [Ammunition To Go]
    20rds - 327 Federal Heavy Buffalo Bore 100gr. JHP Ammo $1.35/rd [$26.95] SelfDefense [Ammunition To Go]
    20rds - 327 Federal Buffalo Bore 130gr. Hard Cast Keith WC Ammo $1.35/rd [$26.95] [Ammunition To Go]
    20rds - 327 Federal Magnum Speer 100gr. Gold Dot Hollow Point Ammo $1.20/rd [$23.95] SelfDefense [Ammunition To Go]
    20rds - 327 Federal Magnum Speer 115gr. Gold Dot Hollow Point Ammo $1.20/rd [$23.95] SelfDefense [Ammunition To Go]
    50rds - 327 Federal Magnum Federal American Eagle 100gr. Soft Point Ammo $0.56/rd [$27.95] Hunting [Ammunition To Go]
    Federal Premium Personal Defense - .327 Fed. Mag 85gr Hydra-Shok JHP 20/Box PD327HS1H $1.32/rd [$26.49] SelfDefense [Natchez]
    CCI Speer .327 Federal 115gr Gold Dot HP Ammunition 20/box 23914 $1.35/rd [$26.99] SelfDefense [Natchez]
    CCI Speer .327 Federal Mag 100gr Gold Dot HP Ammunition 20/box 23913 $1.10/rd [$21.99] SelfDefense [Natchez]
    CCI Speer .327 Federal 115gr Gold Dot HP Ammunition 20/box 23914 $1.10/rd [$21.99] SelfDefense [Natchez]
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    FLHTC,

    The intent of my post was to point out that the family of cartridges that can be fired in a firearm chambered for the .327 magnum is versatile, fun, and relatively inexpensive. I intentionally avoided making point-by-point comparisons of the .327 and .357 so that no one would challenge me on details for which I do not have facts to support. I have not compared ballistics tables for the two cartridges to ascertain differences in the trajectories of the .327 and .357, nor do I plan to do so because it isn't important to me. I have used the .357 to kill deer but only under limited conditions. I cannot think of a condition where the .327 would be a better choice for shooting deer than the .357 and that was what I was alluding to when I said the .357 is generally a better choice with top end loads than the .327.

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    Interesting thread, I am on the fence about the SS7 . I really like 32s and regret having missed the single sixes in 32HR. So his would satisfy that itch. My hesantancy is due to having owned a 30carbine BH many years ago. That had to be the most unpleasant BH I ever had. It was miserably loud, plugs and muffs and still a headache after shooting it. It was ok loaded down but then it's a big 32HR. OK question is for you who have both the 30Car BH and a 327 , with full effect loads is it as loud as the BH? If so how can folk deal with it in a snubby? I too want it in a rifle, seems to match the 300 Sherwood in case capacity and exceed it in performance. A nice low wall would suit

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    Yep, the 327 can be loud, but to me it does not have the piercing blast of the 30 carbine. I do enjoy shooting the 30 carbine blackhawk but it does not get the range time of my 327 and 32-20 revolvers. I enjoy shooting my 32-20 firearms, but the 327 gives me all the speed and accuracy of the hot loaded 32-20 without using up the brass as quickly. A 32-20 case will not go much more than 5 loadings with hot loads. The 327 just keeps on ticking.....

    In regards to muzzle blast, my hearing was pretty much destroyed by the 50 caliber machine guns fired near me and by me during my time in Southeast Asia. So I can just wear my electronic ear protectors and be just as happy as a clam when I am shooting.
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    Seems I should get one this go round, I missed the first 32HR SS for same reason. I like that it seems to do fine with the shorter (more available) brass also. Thanks for the info.

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    I have a Single Six in 32H&R, 6.5in. Loaded with 115 GC ( Miha's new hp mold) and 10.5 gr of 296, I get 1175 FPS. Not too loud, very accurate, no leading. When the Single Seven was announced, I immediately got on the list for one in 7.5in. These 32's are fun guns, using little powder and lead. Trying to compare or justify them is a lost cause. Just get one and enjoy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus Youmans View Post
    FLHTC,

    The intent of my post was to point out that the family of cartridges that can be fired in a firearm chambered for the .327 magnum is versatile, fun, and relatively inexpensive. I intentionally avoided making point-by-point comparisons of the .327 and .357 so that no one would challenge me on details for which I do not have facts to support. I have not compared ballistics tables for the two cartridges to ascertain differences in the trajectories of the .327 and .357, nor do I plan to do so because it isn't important to me. I have used the .357 to kill deer but only under limited conditions. I cannot think of a condition where the .327 would be a better choice for shooting deer than the .357 and that was what I was alluding to when I said the .357 is generally a better choice with top end loads than the .327.

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    Gus, I agree that the 357 will be an adequate deer cartridge as will the 327 Federal. The 327 factory load gives it the highest velocity of any handgun round to date and with handloads, the bar is even higher. Add jacketed rifle bullets and it really stands alone in a revolver. If the 357 mag was a better choice than the 327, the 30 carbine would have never been designed.

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    If you think that the .327 is equal to the .357 for killing deer under all the same conditions I am not going to argue with you. We will simply have to agree to disagree. On your other point, I contend that even if the .327 Federal had existed when the M1 Carbine was being developed it would not have been considered in its current form because of the difficulty of getting a rimmed cartridge to feed in a high capacity, magazine-fed, semiautomatic rifle. The .30 Carbine designers might have used the .327 cartridge instead of the .351 WSL as a base from which to develop a rimless cartridge but I doubt they would have used the .327 Magnum as is. If you are asserting that Ruger would not have manufactured the Blackhawk in .30 Carbine if the .327 Federal had existed, I am not going to speculate one way or another. However, I do wonder why the .30 Carbine Blackhawk is still a standard offering and the .327 is not standard in any of Ruger's revolvers.. I can only surmise that Ruger must sell enough of the .30 Carbine Blackhawks to make it profitable.

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    I have a Blackhawk in 327 and 357 one is a 8 shooter and the other is a 6, I am happy with both.They both serve there place.the 327 you can shoot 5 different kind of rounds in it.and the 357 you can do 2 but if you reload your own and cast you still can make use of the ones that get too short for 38spl and go from there .As for the both guns it is up to the user and then go from there.I know too many from what i seen and some I met was think of the 327 to do all what a 357 can do but they are not looking at the whole.But for what they do not get on 327 is more from he one that like it and use it in there own way.That is how I see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gus Youmans View Post
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    If you think that the .327 is equal to the .357 for killing deer under all the same conditions I am not going to argue with you. We will simply have to agree to disagree. On your other point, I contend that even if the .327 Federal had existed when the M1 Carbine was being developed it would not have been considered in its current form because of the difficulty of getting a rimmed cartridge to feed in a high capacity, magazine-fed, semiautomatic rifle. The .30 Carbine designers might have used the .327 cartridge instead of the .351 WSL as a base from which to develop a rimless cartridge but I doubt they would have used the .327 Magnum as is. If you are asserting that Ruger would not have manufactured the Blackhawk in .30 Carbine if the .327 Federal had existed, I am not going to speculate one way or another. However, I do wonder why the .30 Carbine Blackhawk is still a standard offering and the .327 is not standard in any of Ruger's revolvers.. I can only surmise that Ruger must sell enough of the .30 Carbine Blackhawks to make it profitable.

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    Then you must have acquired a different attitude. When it comes to your disagreement on the 327 being unequal to the 357, you are singing to the choir. Every gun magazine writer who shot it highly praises the 327 for it's performance and here is one article from American Rifleman that puts it statistically above the 357. http://www.americanrifleman.org/arti...id=14586&sub=0

    I am not saying anything about what Ruger would have or wouldn't have done. I am merely stating that since the 357 mag does feed buttery smooth in semi automatic weapons and the Coonan, AMT and Desert Eagle are proof, it's hard to imagine it not being considered for a small carbine. The only difficulty with the rimmed case in a semi automatic weapon is getting the shooters to buy them.
    You are assuming that sales was the issue for the 327 to be dropped but the SP101 had cylinder issues, due to the chamber pressure being 45,000. That is the highest of any handgun round to date. All the manufacturers got cold feet and dropped the 327 when Ruger did. With the 357 mag chamber pressure being 35,000, it's easy to see how great the liability was when companies relied on product testing done by Ruger. So when Ruger dropped the 327 due to the cylinder issues, it's not surprising that other companies followed suit.

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    I was just on Midways web site and could only find Lyman dies for the 327 Federal. Does anyone else make reloading dies for the 327?

    Or do you just buy dies for the 32 and adjust them differently?
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