My pellet gun obsession is out of control now. I found a NIB 1700p at a great price. Since I want a optic anyway all I need to do is upgrade the trigger to the 1701p trigger group. I have this and a New Eotech rimfire model coming. I love shooting silhouette in my back yard and cant wait to pull the trigger on this one. Guess the HW77 just got pushed back a little more. Someday