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Thread: Starting over; .308 Winchester

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    Starting over; .308 Winchester

    If you're one of the three people that reads what I post
    You'll know I've been chasing .308 around for a while. Well, now I've started over.

    I got some Lyman#2 alloy from Rotometals, a thermometer and I had Veral cut me a mold that was fitted to my pound cast.
    First off, wow! What a turn around LBT done! About 6 days. That's fast!

    This mold casts very nice around 650 degrees and the bullets just jump out. I water dropped these so they should be pretty hard.

    Since all my attempts failed, I let Veral decide what I need. These weigh in a very consistent 150g +/- .5g. This may be the first mold I've ever had that cast at the advertised weight.

    Im going start with AA2015 since I have around 9lbs of it, and push up to 2200 fps or so.
    If you havent read Veral Smiths book, it's worth the time.


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    Looking forward to your on-target results!
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    Make that 4! Now 4 people read your posts!

    Looking forward to your results.

    Quick question: What rifle, barrel length and twist?

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    LOL!

    This time its a Weatherby Vanguard (Howa), 22in 1/10 twist.

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    Make me 5.

    Dean I admire the way your resetting everything to zero and starting over.

    If you find a decent accuracy spot in the 1600-1800fps range might want to settle for that for a bit. Once all is back working the way it is supposed to is the time to think about pushing the edge. NOT when everything you touch is turning to brown smelly stuff.

    But it will make interesting reading either way, GOOD LUCK!

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    In my .308 project with the M1A, which ate up some thousands of cast-bullet loads, I also ran a very few rounds through an FAL..... and now I'll soon be trying some of the more-promising loads in a Ruger Gunsite Rifle.

    It'll be interesting to see if there's any correlation between the rifles as to what constitutes an "accurate load" (in their collective opinion).

    My best result in the M1A was with 311467, the Loverin 180-grain (+/-) bullet, driven by... of all things.... H4831. That load not only cycled the M1A correctly, but it also laid TEN of those Loverins into 0.60" from fifty yards with IRON sights.

    I really want to try that recipe in the bolt-action rifle!
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    I'm ready to see some targets.

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    I have had good results with 2015 in the .30-30
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    Count me In DeanoSaurus... I will be watching..


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    Just waiting for test report
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    Funny thing...just this morning I was mulling over trying AA2015 in my .308 M700. Currently, I'm shooting the Lee 312-155 (sized to .311) over 26.5 gr. of IMR4198...'cept I'm down to my last 1/4 lb of IMR4198 with less than 150 rounds remaining on the shelf. Like you, though, I've got a supply of AA2015 on hand so I'll be watching for the results of your load work-up.


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    Veral Smith isn't a spring chicken anymore. I really want to get one of his molds while I can.

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    The LBT spitzers don't have a bore riding portion, making it kinda tough to seat the longer heavier spitzers without the gc well below the shoulder, I have a 200 gr. LBT spitzer that cant be used in any of my guns....this is not any kind of a knock on LBT molds which are top notch, maybe a design problem.

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    Veral hates bore riders. I mean he despises them.
    My particular spitzer is perfect in terms of length. I sent him a pound cast chamber impression of my rifle. He made a bullet that fit that. It came out to be 150g. It will lightly engage the rifling and the base is seated flush with base of the neck.

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    Hope this one is the charm for you. It is a good looking boolit and does sound like the fit is there.Bet it's gonna shoot for you.

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    Nice looking boolits!
    I understand about starting a project over, sometimes you need to start with a blank sheet of paper and approach it like a brand-new endeavor. Looking forward to load notes and a range report.
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    " Veral hates bore riders. I mean he despises them. "

    I guess this is where Veral and I part ways.
    I happen to like ALL of my bore riders.

    Ben

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    Well, I'm about ready for the first try.
    (50) pcs neck sized FC brass, Win Large Rifle Primer
    150g lbt cast from water dropped Lyman #2 alloy, Hornady check, LBT blue soft lube, sized .311
    Ladder test of 2015 going (10) rounds each; 29.0g-30.0g-31.0g-32.0g & 33.0g
    Seated at 2.595 rifling engraves but extraction is easy to extract.

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    I hope that you have better luck with your 150 gr than I did. Here is 175 gr with 2400 load. Not too bad for first real try with new mold.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails img001.jpg  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverboolit View Post
    I hope that you have better luck with your 150 gr than I did. Here is 175 gr with 2400 load. Not too bad for first real try with new mold.
    I'm having problems reading your data in your photo? Can you give details of your load and distance fired ?

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
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