Update.
Looky what landed in my range bag.
This is what's left of the case that was fired. You can tell as its the only sherded case with a fired primer.
Hoo boy. That's a mess
Uberti wants the gun back for investigation.
They states if its their fault its under warranty. If its the ammo it heads off to ammo manufacturer. In this case Me.
Shipping back to them tomorrow.
Last edited by flyingmonkey35; 05-27-2014 at 09:04 PM.
And just for your info... casting with a single cavity is about as close as you can get to zero production, while still having some production. -- Whitespider
Oh thank you all for the advice.
I had to compelty disaamble the gun and use a woddend hammer to gentaly tap the cylinder out as it still had live round in it.
Yes I pulled the remain ing rounds .
No other double charges.
I'm thinking that may be the culprit.
Going to sell the rest of the cases on eflay. To jewelry makers. As I no longer trust em.
I may be done with long colt all together. And just buy me a 9mm ruger vaquero.
Forgive the spelling I'm on my phone.
I would pull ALL the boolits that remain from that batch and weigh each charge. You may be surprised what you find.
If you think your a hammer everything looks like a nail.
In a rifle yes - in a revolver no. Take a look at the depth of the firing pin strike (it's a crater) on the primer where it was blown back against the hammer. Then look at the case - it is shattered at the web, the thickest part of the casing all the way up to the rim. It was an overcharge IMO that fractured the cylinder walls and ignited the next 2 roundsWow, you would expect the primer to be flatter wouldn't you? A lesson for those who judge pressure by looking at primers. It don't always work!
Moot point of how much of an overcharge - the cylinder and the cases tell the story
Last edited by John Boy; 05-28-2014 at 04:48 PM.
Regards
John
You don't have to be done reloading 45 Colt. If you use trail boss powder as many cowboy action shooters do, it is so bulky that even if you fill the case with just enough room for the bullet, the powder manufacture states you should not harm your gun. The main thing here was that no one was hurt, including bystanders. While a lot of us here have not done this, we all learn from this. You could ask Uberti if they would use the usable parts and rebuild your gun. Then in a way, you somewhat have your gun back. As a manufacturer, they can replace the frame with the same serial number within ATF regulations, I don't know about Italy though.
Gun is on its way back to bernaili.
I'll keep y'all posted .
Off to my next project.
Lock out die from rcbs.
If you think your a hammer everything looks like a nail.
Ohhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyyyyyy.What a mess.Glad that no one was hurt.That will definitely make a feller call for a change of wardrobe.
Good luck.Have fun.Be safe.
Leo
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I have heard back from Uberti.
"Something in the gun blew it up."
That's all they would say.
When I asked if they could do any thing. He told me NO.
I got the impression of go piss up a rope.
No ship something blew it up. I doubt they went beyond opening the box.
Sigh.
I will be parting it out when I get it back.
"Something in the gun blew it up"???? Heck, I could have told you that. Heck, you told them that. Not much help there.
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Too bad about your revolver. I'm curious about the statement bashing Lee progressive presses. With the pro-1000 I can't see how you can get a double charge without having obvious multiple mechanical failures. The case ratchets to to next position after being charged and you would have to manually remove it and relocate it to get charged twice. How do you do get the press to fail and give a double charge?
I have a feeling I could have hand loaded each round . and weighed each charge. While video taping it and they would have gave me the same answer.
I load smokeless 45 Colts for my wife and kids, so it is Trailboss all the way, just no way to double charge. I wouldn't be able to forgive myself if I caused them to be harmed. I load on a 550 so it is possible to double charge, but I have an LED light shining on the cases and I look at every one( I think), but the TB gives me an extra layer of security. I use other powders for my wifes 9mm but again it is a bulky powder that won't double. The only gun I ever blew up was my Webley Bulldog, and that was with the proper cartridge loaded by Fiocchi. Shoulda stuck with my own cut-down loaded lite shells, they seemed to work fine.
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