9mm 115gr, 124gr, 147gr cast for Deer and small game?

[huntersdog]

Looking for some suggestions on some good cast bullets for the 9mm Pistol for small game hunting and maybe an occasional deer out small game hunting.

I think a hard cast 9mm 147gr FP would be plenty for deer.

Edited added pistol

[dubber123]

Carbine or pistol? Either way I would lean towards the heavier flat points, pushed hard. Shot placement would have to be good. If it's a carbine, that would go a long ways towards getting decent power out of the 9mm.

[scattershot]

I have a friend who killed a Colorado mule deer with a 380. It worked, dead deer, but it's hardly a recommended load.

[tazman]

In this state, pistol only,no carbine allowed. .357 mag or larger only. No rifle except muzzle loader. Shotgun and archery.
Greatly limits your choices.

[Bigslug]

I think a hard cast 9mm 147gr FP would be plenty for deer.

It would. You'll have plenty of penetration on a broadside shot, but legality in your area is going to be the greater question.

[huntersdog]

Carbine or pistol? Either way I would lean towards the heavier flat points, pushed hard. Shot placement would have to be good. If it's a carbine, that would go a long ways towards getting decent power out of the 9mm.

I just edited it. Thanks for pointing that out. It would be for a 9mm handgun.

[huntersdog]

I have a friend who killed a Colorado mule deer with a 380. It worked, dead deer, but it's hardly a recommended load.

I have had a few buddies use BB in the 38 special to take deer in their 4" revolvers.

[huntersdog]

It would. You'll have plenty of penetration on a broadside shot, but legality in your area is going to be the greater question.

No restriction, just as long as it is over 35 Cal.

[357shooter]

No restriction, just as long as it is over 35 Cal.

Doesn't that eliminate 9mm?

[tazman]

Doesn't that eliminate 9mm?

9mm is .356

[357shooter]

9mm is .356

Exactly, the 35 caliber ammo that I see is in the neighborhood of .358. Anything starting w/.35 is 35 caliber isn't it? The post I responded to said it had to be bigger than 35 caliber.

[DougGuy]

I would NOT hunt deer with a 9mm. Period. There are SO many better choices, it's just silly to take the chance of wounding an animal just to say yeah I took it with a 9mm.

[Blammer]

technically yes, 9mm is .355 dia

357 mag is .358 dia

9mm is smaller

but you too can be a test case.

for small game, I'd use the 135gr FP's by NOE.

[Char-Gar]

I would NOT hunt deer with a 9mm. Period. There are SO many better choices, it's just silly to take the chance of wounding an animal just to say yeah I took it with a 9mm.

I most strongly agree.

[huntersdog]

Doesn't that eliminate 9mm?

Nope, anything .351 and over is OK, just like we can hunt with a rifle .22 cal just as long as it's a centerfire for big game, which we can use .223 for deer, bear, elk, etc.

[gray wolf]

Small game sure, Deer ? foolish move.
It's not about what will kill a Deer, it's about being humane and killing quickly.
There comes a time when we say, But, But it's all I have, I say then you don't have enough.
Use the right tool for the job, folks just don't hunt Deer with a 9 Mill if they can help it.
Just my 2 cents

[jonp]

Exactly, the 35 caliber ammo that I see is in the neighborhood of .358. Anything starting w/.35 is 35 caliber isn't it? The post I responded to said it had to be bigger than 35 caliber.

I would not want to be the guy in front of the judge arguing over 1/1000 of an inch

[huntersdog]

I would not want to be the guy in front of the judge arguing over 1/1000 of an inch

It's in the reg, nothing to dispute or argue over. I have taken several black bears with the .223 and a pile of deer with the .223 also. Spine shots or head shots and they just drop.

[xacex]

Shoot a black bear with a cast 223, take a picture for me will ya? Where do you live again? I just want to put your local paper in my search engine.

[45-70 Chevroner]

I would NOT hunt deer with a 9mm. Period. There are SO many better choices, it's just silly to take the chance of wounding an animal just to say yeah I took it with a 9mm.

I second that.
If it hasn't changed, Arizona allows any centerfire handgun or rifle to hunt big game. Hopefully our hunters here know what the humane limit is.