I bought a 12 gauge several years ago for 150.00 an they threw in a single stage mec reloader with a crate full of new primed (600 rds) hulls wades. An finally got it out today, bent a few guides back into place. No bottles so I used fuller to feed powder an shot. Lol. Worked just real slow. Loaded up five rounds an they were half grain over my data so I made a phone call an the ol man said should be fine. Took them shot them an my first shots he'll on the mec were great. Can't wait to find some bottles priced right an turn some shells out of it.