BadgerEdd has come up with this design and I have talked with Josh at A.C.E. and he is willing to produce it with four different paired band/nose options which are:
.287" Bands / .276" Nose
.289" Bands / .278" Nose
.291" Bands / .280" Nose
.293" Bands / .282" Nose
This design is for the fat & worn milsurps as well as the commercial guns that leave one scratching his head when the groove/land dimensions are checked. Here's the design, please indicate interest on this thread:
-Matt
Group Buys Honcho'd: C326-175-FN, 434-210-RF, C434-210-RF, 30-165-SIL-MOD, 358156-PB, 413-170-Keith, C348-225-FN, 8mm SIL, 45-230-CM, 45-270-Ohaus/SWC, Edd's 28-170-FN
Of course I am interested, maybe even several sizes.
Edd
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I'm interested .....
A little backround on this design. It is loosely based on a discontinued RCBS design. I eliminated one band, added a scraper groove, and tried to design it for use in the much neglected mulsurp barrels. The design as shown "Should" be usable in commercial chambers.Originally Posted by Dutch4122
BadgerEdd has come up with this design and I have talked with Josh at A.C.E. and he is willing to produce it with four different paired band/nose options which are:
.287" Bands / .276" Nose
.289" Bands / .278" Nose
.291" Bands / .280" Nose
.293" Bands / .282" Nose
This design is for the fat & worn milsurps as well as the commercial guns that leave one scratching his head when the groove/land dimensions are checked. Here's the design, please indicate interest on this thread:
After doing impact slugs on 8 rifles, both commercial and milsurp, I am convinced the ONLY way one can get a good fit is to, at the very least, slug and pin gauge the barrel. An impact slug of the throat or a chamber cast will improve one's chances of getting a bullet that fits his gun.
My 2 cents...
Edd
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I'm in.
Jim
Which blocks will these be made in, 4 cavity? Mix cavities for size, like two different sizes?
I am not going to be the honcho on this GB, but Dutch4122 and I are in contact regularly. At this time, the offerings have not beed decided. That said, I imagine people should exprss their desired material ( aluminium or steel) and the cavity count they would like. That information will help Josh determine the cost of the molds and the interest in what types.
I hope this helps you, Josh, and Dutch.
Edd
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Josh at A.C.E. has advised me he can produce this design in the following:
Aluminum
2 cavity = $55
4 cavity = $100
6 cavity = $125
Steel
2 cavity = $100
I do not think it will be practical to expect different diameter cavities in the same block. These molds are going to be produced by orbiting a single size cherrie out to different diameters to cut the desired size cavity. Given the fact that Josh has already agreed to deal with four different band/nose sizes (which means finishing all the gas check shanks separately) I don't think we should overcomplicate the process any more.
-Matt
Group Buys Honcho'd: C326-175-FN, 434-210-RF, C434-210-RF, 30-165-SIL-MOD, 358156-PB, 413-170-Keith, C348-225-FN, 8mm SIL, 45-230-CM, 45-270-Ohaus/SWC, Edd's 28-170-FN
It's a VERY good idea. There have been writings in the CBE Fouling Shot about very generous 7X57's.
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In for a steel mold.
Finally a heavy for the 7X57!
I'll take one for sure...
Thanks Edd & Dutch..
By the time this sees daylight all the HS graduations will be over with and I may have a few dollars again. Put me down for a 2 cavity .287" bands / .276" nose aluminum mold.Robert
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Last edited by Hardcast416taylor; 04-25-2014 at 02:11 PM. Reason: update
Do a little research, ACE uses air craft grade Alum. to make his molds
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Hmmm?
Read post #9 Wayne..
BTW this isn't the first GB where he has used steel..
Last edited by Nrut; 04-24-2014 at 01:33 AM.
I stand corrected
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Could be interested but ideally for me I'd need 0.289" bands with 0.276" nose.
My rifle is 0.288" on the groove and 0.276" on the bore, the blunt profile would mean that the boolit would seat too far into the case for me with a nose of 0.278" to give me a good groove diameter plus on the bands.
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Looks like we have at least 10 buyers that are interested. I will start the Group Buy thread later today.
Just so that everyone that has responded so far is aware. This Group Buy will remain open until mid-summer, and probably into August. The reason I say this is that I want everybody interested to have enough time to slug bores, check throat length, and check the lands with pin gauges both at the muzzle and throat of their rifles. This may take a while for some to get done, so I wanted them to have time. Josh will order the cherrie well in advance of production time. I would also like enough time to pass in order to maximize the run total for him so that he can get a decent chunk of change for all his hard work.
Glad to see that we are picking up steam here!
-Matt
Group Buys Honcho'd: C326-175-FN, 434-210-RF, C434-210-RF, 30-165-SIL-MOD, 358156-PB, 413-170-Keith, C348-225-FN, 8mm SIL, 45-230-CM, 45-270-Ohaus/SWC, Edd's 28-170-FN
At last- for the 7x57mm!
Count me in as very interested in this one- yes, I will require some time to slug/measure/test bore- my old #5 Rem Rolling Block in 7x57 has been waiting far too long for a suitable projectile such as this- Aluminum 2Cav will do just fine!
Thanks for making this happen-
Chuck 358wcf:
Matt, My Brazilian M1908 pin gauges at .276 and a bore slug measures .287.The reason I say this is that I want everybody interested to have enough time to slug bores, check throat length, and check the lands with pin gauges both at the muzzle and throat of their rifles.
I'm guessing the .289" Bands / .278" Nose would be the correct mould?
Jim
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