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Thread: Good all around bullet for both the 45ACP and 45 Colt

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    I bought the NOE mold for the multi purpose.
    Very sweet boolits and shoot excellent in acp and colt.

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    Hunting what with a 45ACP? I have been using a rnfp 200gr in both that has a crimp groove but it is a small boolit for hunting at the velocities your getting from a 45ACP I think.
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    I believe this projectile was purpose built for both, I could be wrong, I know it came in two pin sizes for the HP and it comes in two dia's for casting. 452 and .454, just pick the one you want.

    http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product...roducts_id=267

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    Since you desire to use this boolit for both .45 ACP and .45 Colt, LBT offers a LFN (Long Flat Nose) 225 to 230 (depending on alloy) cast boolit mould. I have one in 4-cavity that is a great hitter/smacker because of the wide flat nose. It feeds well in my .45 ACPs. Have not used it in the .45 Colt. Have other heavier moulds/ boolits for those revolvers. Big Boomer

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    Have to ask the same as jonp except for both cartridges; "hunting what"?

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    I had mine made buy Old West bullet Moulds 230gr the one's posted look good also, some of my moulds have 2 different style bullets in 1 mould these are old pictures.
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    I have the Lee 230 gr TL.FP 6 hole
    I have only been shooting it in 45 ACP but it has surprized me how accurate it is. Not sure how it would work out in LC ?
    I really like 4.5~5 Gr. Trail Boss. Makes a very pleasant and accurate round
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    how about the lee 200 gr tl swc bullet ?I just recently bought a ruger Blackhawk 45 convertible I cast a 230 gr tc a 230 lrn and a 200 swc for my 1911 so I decided to just load that in 45 lc also . I ordered a lee 252 gr swc mold from midway and it was junk, new out of the box cavitys out of align , so I returned it for another and it showed up the same way so I returned it as well and just gave up on it and use what I have here
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    I have the same 200 Gr swc .45 mold from Lee (6 hole)
    I haven't had any problems with the mold except for breaking the cam levers on the sprue plate.
    I'm not a big fan of that design. I would prefer a tang extended as a part of the sprue plate.
    Lee uses that design on some of their 2 hole molds.
    I don't have a 45 revolver but my Glock ate the SWC's like candy and they were very accurate also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougGuy View Post
    For hunting in the .45 Colt chambering, the Lee C452-300-RF is a gas checked design with a wide flat nose that is an extremely efficient killer. The GC allows the use of softer alloy than coww if you favor some expansion, but mostly these are used at velocities that completely penetrate the game, so you have an entrance wound and an exit wound to bleed out of, with a good sized wound channel between the two.

    With a wide flat nose like this boolit has, a hollowpoint design is completely unneccesary, as it does terrific damage to tissue just as cast. These really shine in carbines and Ruger revolvers where you can load them to +P+ pressures.. Plenty of load data out there for this boolit, as it is a favorite in many circles.. These can weigh in at 320gr with gas check, depending on the alloy you choose, Lyman #2 for example will put them right at 320gr.



    Lee also makes a mold for a 255gr RF which looks much like the 300gr RF and a lot of folks like this lighter wide flat nose for both hunting and general shooting.

    I might also add that it is fairly difficult to find decent hunting ammo with heavier boolits in the .45 Colt caliber, and will be quite expensive when you do find it. The win goes to the handloader who casts or has access to cast boolits of various designs and is able to pick and choose the boolit to suit the game animal. This Lee boolit would be devastating on hogs and bear in the harder alloys, yet able to expand if loaded in the softer alloys and driven at moderate to brisk velocities.

    I don't think it practical to hunt out just one boolit for both calibers, this will basically hogtie the .45 Colt into a lighter boolit with enough ojive to cycle in an ACP, it might as well be a .44 Special at that point. Choose a boolit that does it's best in each caliber and develop a load that is accurate, don't try to compromise two already established and very fine cartridges into using the same boolit.
    That 300gr would be a great hunting bullet in the 45 Colt, I wish it would fit in the 45 ACP.

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    Lot of great responses and ideas posted here for both rounds. I will have to look at some of the bullets and molds posted here. Thanks a bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CastingFool View Post
    It'll be interesting to follow this post. I reload both calibers and have been toying with Lee 452-200 RF. I liked the results with the few I reloaded for 45LC, can't get them to feed on my 45acp (may be the gun itself)
    I use the Lee 452-200RF in both .45 Colt and ACP. Works well on both for me. No feeding issues on my ACP. Have had good results with Unique, Blue Dot and PB. PB has prolly been the best powder for both.

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    The RCBS 230 45-230-CM could work, I have the 230 Large HP/260 grain solid design that NOE has out and it's a good one if you are after a HP 230 grainer for your 45 ACP, and then there is this one I put together over at Accurate Molds - http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_...=45-235R-D.png

    The RCBS 45-230-CM or very similar is also over at Accurate Molds too (45-230Y). The Lee 452-200-RF may also work but can give feeding issues in the auto due to the short OAL because of the short nose length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Gibson View Post
    Have to ask the same as jonp except for both cartridges; "hunting what"?

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    Deer and need be black bear maybe. The 185gr gold dots are great on deer out to 40 yards, is the Farthest with the 45acp.that I have shot them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildchild2010 View Post
    Deer and need be black bear maybe. The 185gr gold dots are great on deer out to 40 yards, is the Farthest with the 45acp.that I have shot them.
    Really? Your hunting deer with a 185 Gd out of 45ACP? Your pushing the envelope on that one IMHO. I've used 165gr Core-Lokt 357Mag for hunting deer but I don't think the 185GD is suitable for hunting whitetail and I'm surprised your getting clean kills at 40yrds with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonp View Post
    Really? Your hunting deer with a 185 Gd out of 45ACP? Your pushing the envelope on that one IMHO. I've used 165gr Core-Lokt 357Mag for hunting deer but I don't think the 185GD is suitable for hunting whitetail and I'm surprised your getting clean at 40yrds with it.
    Why not? I have t kills taken several deer and black bear with a single shot .223, growing up we didn`t have the money to buy the latest bolt action rifles, so we used what we had. It`s all about placement when hunting, a few of the deer dropped in their tracks with 55gr FMJ`s.
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    What you are comparing are apples and oranges and i would highly discourage the 185gd/45acp combo on bear
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildchild2010 View Post
    That 300gr would be a great hunting bullet in the 45 Colt, I wish it would fit in the 45 ACP.
    It will fit but, no room for the powder.

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    + 1 with Strawhat! My 452423 casts in my mould with my alloy at 238 grains. It runs smoothly through all my acp guns and my Colts Love it! I do too, I save 30 grains of lead with every shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwedeNelson View Post
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    That was kind of the idea behind our 452 230Gr. HP
    http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/product...roducts_id=251
    Its worked out great for me in both 45 Colt and ACP

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check