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Thread: IMR 4198 and 3030?

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    ^^^grumpy ol men^^^

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    Go to the cast pics link at the very bottom of this page. Then click on load data lookup, enter 30-30, and there is a plethora of cast boolit data there.

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    My 30/30 prefers 5744 but my 6mm Rem, 7mmTCU, 250 Sav, and a couple others all prefer 4198 with cast. My 22 Hornet likes 4198 with jacketed but not cast. Every rifle has its own personality. Don't worry about the grumpy guys. They are trying to help too. This is a terrible addiction so must be discouraged

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    Mama always said " if you can't say something nice, say nothing at all". It was great advice. We don't needIMHO self appointed question police, we have moderators for that. As for me I totally dislike Hogdon's new site, it took away much good information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLCTEX View Post
    As for me I totally dislike Hogdon's new site, it took away much good information.
    Good thing I printed out all the calibers I cared about! Damn, got a 7-08 since then......

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    As for me I totally dislike Hogdon's new site, it took away much good information.-DLCTX

    Uh-oh, I always liked that site.

    Procedure is a bit different, seems OK to me. Still no 32-20 data.
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    Give the man the data, and you risk error in communication. Give the man the link, he can now infer his own judgment. And come back with more to learn than which powder, something no one can say without testing...

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    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...an-others-here

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    Quote Originally Posted by w5pv View Post
    To ask questions is asking for knowledge.
    Yes and a reply to get a manual is the best answer one could get. This site has a great reputation for loading technique, we offer very little data. IMO, the data in the manual is the least important information in it. I believe we do someone a real disservice when we give them powder data without understanding what it will be shot in, how it will be loaded and what is expected for accuracy.
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    ^^^
    That is why I don't and won't post loads. Nor would I ask for load information.

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    17gr IMR 4198 under a 165 boolit yielded right at 1600fps for me out of my 22" Handi rifle. Very consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MT Gianni View Post
    Yes and a reply to get a manual is the best answer one could get. This site has a great reputation for loading technique, we offer very little data. IMO, the data in the manual is the least important information in it. I believe we do someone a real disservice when we give them powder data without understanding what it will be shot in, how it will be loaded and what is expected for accuracy.
    Amen, my friend. I was lucky to have a mentor but he made sure I bought a good manual (RCBS) with my initial kit. He also gave me an older Lyman manual for contrast. He knew, as knowledgeable as he was, that a manual (or two) could teach me far more than he could. Steve Camp also mentored me as a young police officer and I had the honor of helping pass his wisdom on to the next generation of police officers...never got to teach any about reloading, tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 462 View Post
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    That is why I don't and won't post loads. Nor would I ask for load information.
    I will, but very carefully. Many loads that we use with cast boolits are simply not easily found in loading manuals intended for "modern" projectiles. The loads that work well to propel a 170 gr CoreLokt bullet from the average thutty-thutty have little relevance to the loads I use to gently push a RD boolit a few hundred fps slower from my Marlin 336.
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    Well many thanks to the the members here who posted private messages to me. I guess I am a little thin skinned but that is my issue. I stand corrected, there are a lot of good people on this site and a lot of them are willing to share their knoedge. I will stay on I just hope that in the future the grumpy ones use a little more tact, it may keep a newbie around instead of pushing them away a d lord knows people who are interested in things like shooting and hunting are be oming a scarce commodity, we can't afford to loose any, especicially the younger generation.

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    4198; 3031; and Rx7 are my go to powders for 32sp. and 30/30 with 173 gr. gc boolits . These powders are all reasonably close in burning speed
    Real partial to 29 gr of 3031

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    Welcome Elbow, there are a lot of questions ask on this site by noobies to the site that some folks just get tired of answering the simple ones , in their openion that are asked repeatedly . most of them have been hashed to death over and over, so you sometimes need to read all the answers you get before you get your knickers in a knot, and sort out the info, use what you want , forget the rest. If you use the information at this site , you can answer most questions. I ask one now and again myself Hang in there and good loading/shooting
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BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
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