First, general thoughts on the design? As with the Keiths, my interest in Mr. Sharps' bullet is part practical, part historical.
Second, is anyone, other than the troubled Ballisti-cast, making a clone? Tom doesn't appear to have it on roster (yet), and I haven't been following Swede long enough to see if it's one he keeps in the rotation.
No sense stirring the pot for a group buy if it's available or pops up regularly.
WWJMBD?
In the Land of Oz, we cast with wheel weight and 2% Tin, Man.
Crickets chirping. It would seem that nobody likes Phil Sharpe...
WWJMBD?
In the Land of Oz, we cast with wheel weight and 2% Tin, Man.
Tom will make you one. You may have to send him a sample. I am surprised no one has done one.
Bardo
I'm getting kind of puzzled here myself - virtually zero response on what is essentially the ORIGINAL .357 Magnum bullet design. Not that there's any shortage of SWC's in that general range, but I figured there would be some folks lurking here with a "living history" side to their casting hobby.
WWJMBD?
In the Land of Oz, we cast with wheel weight and 2% Tin, Man.
Not quite sure I understand your posts, but #51 is about the only bullet I use in the .38 Special and .357 Magnum. I know little about the technical aspects of bullet design, so I won't comment on that. Nevertheless, my #51 mould makes an accurate bullet. The only other SWC designs I've tried have been the H&G #12B, Lyman #358429 (and the HP version), and Lyman #358156. Of course, all these can be used in the development of accurate loads, but #51 remains my favorite.
Simply looking for feedback on its use (Thanks, BTW); to see if the design is already "on file" with one of our manufacturers if I decide I need one; and if any GB's have been done on it in the past.
WWJMBD?
In the Land of Oz, we cast with wheel weight and 2% Tin, Man.
Bigslug- I haven't bought any custom moulds lately, but with all the mould makers we have today, I would be surprised if at least one of them doesn't have #51 in their inventory. I have no idea how difficult it would be to find a used #51, but there's bound to have been a bunch of them produced. Good luck-
For Reference:
Ballisti-Cast #651
Send a bullet to Tom at Accurate Molds and you will have a duplicate mold in a week or two !
Jerry
S&W .38/44 Outdoorsman Accumulator
Ahhhh. . .but where oh where will I get this bullet to send to Tom at Accurate Molds?
As if I have any business branching out beyond my 358429's at this point in time. . .
WWJMBD?
In the Land of Oz, we cast with wheel weight and 2% Tin, Man.
If you watch here or ebay I bet you can get an original 4 cavity with handles in good shape. In the past 2 years I have have gotten a couple even one bevel base.
Bardo
If you want an old school 38 cal bullet that is outstanding, the H&G #51 is it. Ballisti-Cast purchased the designs some time ago. Here at the shop we do utilize Ballistic-Cast molds in our commercial casting machines, thus we are part of the few that offer this true replica of the Hensley & Gibbs #51 bevel base. Our alloy makes it a tad lighter (158gr). Customer response on this bullet has been great. Great history behind this mold. If you can find an H&G #51 mold that is great shape at a good price, buy it and try it.
Jim
email: info@statelinebullets.com
www.statelinebullets.com
I got one like Gerry's in the buyer's choice group buy from Ballisti-cast.
Well dang, i see there is another H&G to add to my wish list. Thanks for the info on this, I am still learning about this brand.
Funny how one's old posts tend to resurface. My own interests have been moving more toward LFN and WFN profiles with tumble lube grooves, but I was able to network with another member to get samples from an original mold to Al at NOE:
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/index.p...e8jkncnpfj5d27
Looks we've collectively managed to keep it alive. YAY US!
WWJMBD?
In the Land of Oz, we cast with wheel weight and 2% Tin, Man.
I would be interested in a group buy. As stated NOE makes a H&G 51 mold.
There was one left on NOE's site that has been there for months it seems and I finally bit tonight. Looking forward to getting it and trying it out in 38 Special.
Lymans 358477 is a good substitute, in an emergency........
An active inventory re-run at NOE for the 360-158-SWC (H&G 51) has been going on.
Looks like there is a discount if you're a confirmed pre-run sign on - vs' waiting for it to show up in as "in stock" in the shop.
Link to Group Re-Stock:
http://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index....ic,2218.0.html
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