Ideas for a single-shot .327 Federal?

[Zim]

Old Dawg,
What barrel length do you shoot? How quiet & how hard do you push your loads? I'm wanting a 32 Long or Mag contender barrel. What bore diameter? Looks like this will be a custom job for me. Wanting this for subsonic loads to match the Ruger Six with the Saeco 98 gr SWC.

Contenders are lighter than Encores & for this cartridge it's all that is needed.

[Old School Big Bore]

Where'd you guys find all the blasted Cadets?
I'd try an aux chamber in a .30-30...I have a Savage 340 that's about to get some aux chambers in .32 ACP and .30 Carbine. With a Handi- or the like and several loaded aux adapters you could have a walkin-around poofer without having to poke the subcal out every shot...recharge them on your sandwich break.

[dtknowles]

I had borrowed my friends mini lathe so I made a chamber adapter for my 30-30 Topper to use with 30 carbine. After testing it I put the adapter away and have not used it again. It worked fine but was pointless I could just load down the 30-30 and get the same ballistics and better accuracy. I guess if I had a pistol in 30 carbine I might use it for the convenience of carrying just one kind of ammo but for what I do, it don't matter but it was a fun project not a complete waste. I could see the point of matching pistol and carbine ammo for a Cowboy but most of us would be better served by a higher powered rifle. I now have pistol in 32-20 that tempts me to make another insert for that but really it is just an excuse to borrow the lathe again.

Tim

[Old Dawg]

My gun started as a .22 Hornet and I kept the original 22 inch barrel. Bore is .313.

I also had a Ruger Single Six in .32 H&R Magnum at the time and I use the SAECO 98 grain SWC mould. WW weigh 104 grains as cast from my mould. I sold the Ruger as I found out I don't care for single action revolvers even though I almost always fire revolvers SA when hunting or plinking. I don't like the SA loading/ejection process. Too much trouble and after firing off a couple cylinders fairly fast the gun became too hot to hold with bare hands. If it had a double action style swing out cylinder with star ejector I would have kept it as it was otherwise a nice gun. I like the long barrels not because of any added velocity, there really isn't much difference with such a small case, but because they are so much quitter. I don't like louder than necessary guns. Heh? What's that you're saying?

3 grains of Red Dot produces about 1200 fps and is very quiet. The muzzle noise is a good impersonation of some air rifles. If there is a sonic crack from the bullet back off until you are satisfied.

[Zim]

Old Dawg,
Thanks for the information. May I ask if you are satisfied with the rebore (sounds like you are) and who did it? I hadn't considered this option, but I also don't have a donor.
Just picked up a 32 Long 10" for the Contender, but it is 0.308". It is on the project list now.
I've been shooting bullseye for nice plinking loads. Accurate enough in the Ruger for minute of soda can.

Now the cat's meow would be an Enfield or Greener action. BIL has a Greener custom .357 Mag that hits everything you point it at. I have not shot many guns that hung that nicely on target. This one reason I am pursuing the Contender platform - very light and easy to carry.

[windy]

i'd think the martini cadet would be your best platform. as to length, mine's rechambered to 32 special, and it extracts/ejects them adequately. probably make the local deer population nervous. it's a re-barrel job, or reline at least; the 310 cadet bullet is only 310 at the heel; the working caliber is .323. keep us posted; this sounds like a worthwhile project!
mind yer topknot!
windy

[slumlord44]

CPA Stevens 44 1/2 would be my vote or an original Stevens 44 1/2.

[Old Dawg]

My rebore was done several years ago by Richard Nickel who did several wildcats for me. His work was as good as other reborers I had used and better priced. Unfortunately Nickel has passed on.

I am very pleased with my barrel. I remember Nickel saying the H&R barrel was very easy machining so much so that he discouraged me from having it lapped as it did not need it. Fun gun for squirrels, bunnies, armadillos and such.

[Hickory]

For you Contender fans E. Arthur Brown has both 32 magnum and 32-20 barrels.

http://eabco.com/cntndr01.html

[MT Gianni]

MCA says 327 Fed is too hot for an adaptor, I may get one for 32 H&R.

[pietro]

Isn't the cadet action a bit small for the 327 Fed?. I'm not worried about pressure, I'm asking about case length. I have a problem with extraction with my cadet in 357 mag.

FWIW, there's plenty of Cadets, that have been chambered to .32 Winchester Special (twice as long as a .357Mag), most w/o issue, but some needing only a bit of trench digging in the breechblock top surface.


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[BAGTIC]

I wish Rossi would bring back pistol caliber rifles on their original small (.410) action. I only managed to get one before they were discontinued. It would be perfect for small cartridgs such as the .22 Hornet, .327, etc. A light and very handy walking around gun.

[leftiye]

I'm quite impressed with the idea of reboring a Contender (or encore or H&R) barrel to .327 (or to .25 for a 25 Hornet). I'm going to call JES up about it.

I picked up a .22 wmr barrel recently that fit a Topper frame that I have perfectly = .22ccm with a slight touch from a reamer. Alternatively, I turn my .22 CCM brass down a bit and just use the wrm chamber.

[trapper9260]

If you are wanting a cheap rifle to convert, maybe a 340 Savage? Easy to rebarrel, but the bolt face might be an issue. How close is the .327 base to .222/223 ?

I am haven one made with that same gun and got a barrel for it the gunsmith needed to work on the bolt face like you stated.it will shoot all that I am able to shoot in my Blackhawk 327.

[RJM52]

What about having a Ruger #3 or H&R Handy Rifle in .22 Hornet rebored. Delta Dunsmithing in Washington could probably do it.

Bob

[Hooker53]

Anyone made any progress on this? I'm thinking about converting an old Martini 303 Brit to a 327 Fed. Just can't make up my mind on which liner to use. Any thoughts??

Roy
Hooker53

[MT Gianni]

45,000 psi is the first thing that comes to mind.

[Tackleberry41]

Yea 327 is way to hot for a chamber adapter, they generally only make them for the lower pressure rounds. I have 2 for using 7.62x25 in a mosin, couple shots and the pressure bulged them where you have to pound the brass out and the wide spot in the middle is pretty obvious.

H&Rs have jumped in price pretty quick where they are no longer cheap conversions. Last look on ebay and they were getting more for barrels than I can just walk into a pawn shop and buy a whole rifle for. But it would be an easy conversion.

[Hooker53]

Who makes and or sells a good 30 Luger barrel liner? I saw a listing for a man that has them at one time but can't find him in any of my Info.

Roy
Hooker53

[4060MAY]

TJ'S
3652 Neltner Rd.
Alexandria, KY 41001
859-635-5360
Mike Sayers

I have used his liners with god results
I would post his price sheet but mine is too old..call and he will send one