Powder availability problem

[btroj]

I'm not a ringer, idiot, or I agreement with you.

We are coming out of a major panic. People feared that Newton would lead to major gun and ammo bans/legislation. A logical reaction to that is to buy up a big stock.

How many here are still buying powder as soon as they can find some they need? I have purchased 24 pounds in the past 6 months. I might have bought that much powder in the previous 5 years!

I don't see a conspiracy here. Maybe I needs Tin foil hat but I see simple supply and demand problems. Powder output remains roughly the same, demands from reloaders and ammo companies skyrockets. Supply can't meet demand.

Yeah, I challenged your thinking. Now what?

[Love Life]

I buy whatever my bankroll can bear, whenever I see it. I have stopped patronizing commie stores that have imposed limits on what I can buy with my hard earned moolah. I have what I need, when I want it. If I ever decide I won't use it all, then I will sell some off. Hopefully for a profit, but I'm happy if I break even.

[TXGunNut]

The shortage was orchestrated by Obomination after his first election and continues to this day, him and his administration are playing "Smoke and Mirrors" with the publick to eliminate ALL firearms and point the finger of an AH at the American People!-Changeling



Giving the libs direct credit for orchestrating a reloading component shortage is pure silliness. Go to any reloading forum and check out all the new members, more than any time in the last several years. Ask Lee or RCBS how many presses they sold last year. The reloading community was a small percentage of the shooting public, it doesn't take very many new reloaders to put a strain on the supply chain. The laws of supply and demand may be influenced by the political climate but at this point most reloaders, myself included, are preparing for the next shortage. I have no need for a tinfoil hat, too cold around here to wear one anyway.

[btroj]

Uh oh, three people have laid down the gauntlet.

I hope I wake up in the morning......

[Love Life]

Who laid down the gauntlet?

[62chevy]

I'm living prof that it is people causing the shortage, how by not buying any guns until last, January 2013. Had a shotgun for years and thought that was enough but after December 2012 and all the talk about banning guns I got one then my Wife had to have one, I bought another she wanted pistol too then she bought me a rifle. Well all those guns needed feeding but ya you guessed it no ammo. Then I had the bright idea to reload so off I went to find powder, primers and J-words. No J-words so Hey lets cast some. Can't tell you how much ammo the Wife and I bought last year and will buy that and more this year.

So ya blame me and the Wife, we can take it. lol

[RoyEllis]

Who laid down the gauntlet?

No, no, no! Follow along now....it's the chinese led by Hu Flung Dung that's conspiring to cause the glove to hit the fan, which brings us to the end of we know it.
Right???

[Love Life]

Sounds legit.

[btroj]

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It will be interesting to see who challenges what I say.......


Well, we challenged. What is so interesting?

[tazman]

Changeling posted: The shortage was orchestrated by Obomination after his first election and continues to this day, him and his administration are playing "Smoke and Mirrors" with the publick to eliminate ALL firearms and point the finger of an AH at the American People!

I would like a bit more detail on the "smoke and mirrors" so I can understand clearly what is being done. The more knowledge I have, the better I can defeat his agenda.

[TES]

I offered up a 247# drum of pistol powder @ 25.00 per pound (no profit for me) and no one chimed in. I can still get it but each evolution is 6 months and this one ended on Monday.

[jmort]

I "chimed-in" but without an FFL how do I get the powder. If it landed in So Cal there are members here but we would have to break it down before it shipped-out to Montana

[TES]

I "chimed-in" but without an FFL how do I get the powder. If it landed in So Cal there are members here but we would have to break it down before it shipped-out to Montana

It would have to be ordered here. I can see if anyone is receiving in CA to provide distribution.

I do not see where an FFL is needed unless you sell completed ammo or bullets you make.

It would have to get here, then be divided and then sent to you. Unless you have another idea or there is a Dealer in CA that will subdivide for you. I can check on that.

[TXGunNut]

Post 61

It will be interesting to see who challenges what I say.......


Well, we challenged. What is so interesting?

Well, if we can educate a few more people about the laws of supply and demand we've done a good thing. Most of us accept the laws of physics to be able to understand how to make better ammunition. If we don't understand the laws of the marketplace we'll simply blame it on the libs and smoke & mirrors. If we understand how the market works we can make it work for us, eventually. Maybe next time more folks will be ready. Others will just jam their tinfoil hats down a little tighter, point fingers and howl.

[TXGunNut]

I'm living prof that it is people causing the shortage, how by not buying any guns until last, January 2013. Had a shotgun for years and thought that was enough but after December 2012 and all the talk about banning guns I got one then my Wife had to have one, I bought another she wanted pistol too then she bought me a rifle. Well all those guns needed feeding but ya you guessed it no ammo. Then I had the bright idea to reload so off I went to find powder, primers and J-words. No J-words so Hey lets cast some. Can't tell you how much ammo the Wife and I bought last year and will buy that and more this year.

So ya blame me and the Wife, we can take it. lol

Welcome to the affliction! Bet you wish you'd tried this a long time ago, nice to have a wife that's interested as well. Have fun, be safe!

[MTtimberline]

I just been keeping an eye out for WSF. Saw that a local Scheels had lowered the price on most primers from 39.99 to 34.99. They had most makes and models of primers in stock as well. Powder is still iffy.

[rhead]

A lot of the problem is evidence of just how thin the "Just in time" delivery system is. a relative small increase in demand or decrease in supply will make it crash.

I agree that part of the supply problem is caused on purpose by the government. Did you suspect that they would before they were elected?

Were you surprised when they did?

What did you do to prepare for it?

[btroj]

How did the government cause part of the supply problem? Did they lay off workers? Close plants? Interfere with supply chains? Are they buying up powder stocks?

I keep hearing about how the government is behind this but nobody ever knows how! Come on guys, share the info! Precisely how did the government cause the supply problem?

[FLYCUTTER]

Very simple answer btroj. HOMELAND SECURITY and a lot of other gov't. agencies including the usps bought millions of round of ammunition and still have orders not filled which comes first before ammunition goes out to the public sector.

[mold maker]

I'm also really interested in how the gov was responsible.
Just how many new reloaders, added to the fraternity, needed to stock up, when it started to get unobtainable?
How many never had more than a few pounds of powder , and a few hundred primers before, but suddenly need a cabinet full?
How many never had more than a couple boxes of 22LR before, because you could always get them, everywhere, cheap? Now a couple bricks isn't enough, for "just in case"?
I'm sick of the conspiracy theories.
The only conspiracy is the one we do to ourselves as hoarders. Yes I'm guilty. Since O came to power and a little before, we have all preached being prepared. This is the results of our sermon. Are there really any of us that haven't tried to increase our inventory since Hillery and O made their bid for election??????
The less we find the more we have to have.