Want Another?

**felix** · 03-24-2005, 11:43 AM

trash

**felix** · 03-24-2005, 11:44 AM

trash

**felix** · 03-24-2005, 11:54 AM

Sundog, the Ly 429667 (?) has a nose which is slightly too long for the Ruger lever gun. You or Tony gave me some, but to be safe on the Lyman number, I could use a boolit to verify with. You should have my addy somewhere around your house. ... felix

**Willbird** · 03-24-2005, 01:38 PM

As long was we are talking a round/flat plain base 240-250 grains with a single grease groove that casts .433 or larger in WW I'm liking it more and more.

Bill

**felix** · 03-24-2005, 02:07 PM

Yes we are, Bill. ... felix

**felix** · 03-24-2005, 02:10 PM

This is my contemplated 41 mag boolit for a Marlin 94. Probably not enough interest for a group buy, but I have to go with something to get a boolit that will fit this gun. ... felix

**Dutch4122** · 03-24-2005, 11:08 PM

If anybody is keeping a count I'd definately prefer version #3

Also, definately dropping .433 in from ww alloy.

**45 2.1** · 03-25-2005, 08:51 AM

Matt-
I spec'd it as .434" diameter. On the last several six cavities we've gotten, the diameters have come in at or less than spec'd dimensions from WW metal from LEE.

**Dutch4122** · 03-25-2005, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by 45 2.1

Matt-
I spec'd it as .434" diameter. On the last several six cavities we've gotten, the diameters have come in at or less than spec'd dimensions from WW metal from LEE.

Great! Sounds like a real winner to me!

**45 2.1** · 03-31-2005, 11:22 AM

This is the final version. The top crimp groove is for most of the 44 mag leverguns. The second crimp groove is for 444 Marlin rifles. The third is for seating out in 44 mag handguns. Is anybody interested enough to run this in its turn?

**Bass Ackward** · 03-31-2005, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by felix

It will probably cast easier with one groove with a 55 degree angle. Just where to put the groove is probably immaterial, but near the base won't hurt a thing. I think it was BA who had a mold made with only a gas check shank enlongated for his only groove. Worked fine in a revolter. I'm not sure if he used it in a rifle. ... felix

Felix,

Correct. If you have a semiwadcutter design, because it scrapes the bore cleaner ahead of it, it requires more or better lube than an olgival. How much more is determined by how far up the bullet you can place it. For an olgival though, the bullet will even use the powder fouling from the last shot as lubrication. So you can use less lube. And the location of it on the bullet seems to be immaterial.

The bullet is a 225 grain olgival with only the GC groove for lube. I have now used this bullet accurately in three revolvers as well as my Browning 92 and my wifes 1894PG up to and over 2000 fps at 10 BHN without a trace of leading. Without a doubt, this is the most flexible and practical bullet design for 44 caliber I have ever used. (with a GC of coarse)

**felix** · 03-31-2005, 03:25 PM

BA, what is the length between the last base ring and the top of the check? How many tenths? Or, what was the shank length? Stepped style, or straight up? ... felix

**Bass Ackward** · 03-31-2005, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by felix

BA, what is the length between the last base ring and the top of the check? How many tenths? Or, what was the shank length? Stepped style, or straight up? ... felix

Felix,

It's a straight shank of .150. That means that with a .70 check that well, I don't need to impress anyone with my math. It looks like a CAS bullet and was as long (heavy) of a bullet that I could make and still stabilize it in a 38" twist according to Dan's program. And so far, this weight shoots like a dream. Amazing what only 25 less grains of weight does for velocity and recoil.

Flat out, soft lubes don't stay in a wide , shallow groove real well if you are handling lubed bullets. So .... if I had to do it over again, I would go for a stepped shank and only make it .130 long. This would equate to the same amount of lube, but I would have more flexibility to use softer lubes which I prefer in colder weather when hunting.

**Willbird** · 03-31-2005, 10:21 PM

Yes I am interested enough in the final design to sign on, The finance committee approved it.

Bill

**Willbird** · 04-01-2005, 07:39 AM

I would highly suggest that this be moved over to group buy's, It takes me ten minutes each time to dig around and find this post.

Bill

**Willbird** · 04-01-2005, 07:40 AM

In fact I will Honcho this if we have enough interest, This is a great boolit that will cast big enough to fit a lot of revolvers where the only other option is a custom mold or to beagle. I'll take 2 myself if I have to to make this fly.

Bill

**sundog** · 04-01-2005, 08:40 AM

Yup, I will get one or two of these, too. Get a new thread started with a pic and where and how much to send. I bet you get enough takers. sundog

**Tom Myers** · 04-01-2005, 10:20 AM

I will go for one. Just let me know when and how much. Thanks.

Tom Myers

BP	Bronze Point	IMR	Improved Military Rifle	PTD	Pointed
BR	Bench Rest	M	Magnum	RN	Round Nose
BT	Boat Tail	PL	Power-Lokt	SP	Soft Point
C	Compressed Charge	PR	Primer	SPCL	Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP	Hollow Point	PSPCL	Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt"	C.O.L.	Cartridge Overall Length
PSP	Pointed Soft Point	Spz	Spitzer Point	SBT	Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN	Lead Round Nose	LWC	Lead Wad Cutter	LSWC	Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC	Gas Check

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