trouble with a 1894 marlin in .41 mag

[45 acp]

This gun will not cycle swc boolits reliably. The front driving band gets hung up.
What. Are you using for a boolit ?

[Dan Cash]

My 94 is a .32-20, not a 44 but it handles round nose flat poionts well. Perhahps yours would too.

[Pb2au]

What mold are you using?
I would consider doing some comparisons with other SWC designs and see if they feed any better. I only load for 45 colt otherwise I would be happy to send you some samples.
Unless you are fixed on the SWC plan, Dan's suggestion is a good one too. Those round nose flat points in most chamberings hit like a truck and provide pretty good terminal performance to boot.
Good luck, let us know what we can do to help.

[searcher4851]

The gun is obviously nothing but trouble. To save you any more problems, I would be happy to take it off your hands for a reasonable price.

[TheGrimReaper]

The gun is obviously nothing but trouble. To save you any more problems, I would be happy to take it off your hands for a reasonable price.

Exactly what I was thinking!!!

[Capt. Methane]

Don't give up!

Love my little lever gun but it was designed for factory JSP's it seems, the LSWC's aren't very good in it though if you actuate it smartly they will go...sometimes.

For cast bullets the LFN profile works well-I haven't shot many of them but so far so good-mine came from Beartooth Bullets.

You may want to take a look at a GB running right now (but supposed to close soon) for a 230 gr NOE .412 mold, I believe it will work.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...E-LFN-41mag-GB

These should be good to go in the Marlin!

[45 acp]

Exactly what I was thinking!!!

Don't hold your breath . I just picked this up and haven't loaded anything for it
Just rouds that are for my redhawk. The mold is a saeco.

[felix]

My Marlin 41 mag REQUIRES 413 boolits. ... felix

Besides that, the gun is freebored for 0.200 at 413. It appears the 41 mag case can be extended as per 445 specs a'la' DanWesson in that gun. The downside would be the cartridge would require deep boolit seating for the bolt to pick up a round from the magazine and thrust it into the chamber with no hiccups. Winchester 94s have longer actions and would therefore have less trouble with longer rounds. I am surprised they have not met the challenge of making a 41 mag for competitive sales against the Marlin. ... felix

[searcher4851]

Ok, since you've declined my kind offer to take that problematic gun off your hands, here's my OTHER advice. RNFP boolits are a levegun's friend. I've got several levers in various calibers (though not in .41 mag, which I would love to have) and they all seem to enjoy RNFPs. I've got a couple that will feed SWCs but will have the occasional feeding issue with them, but RNFPs just feed slicker than snot.

[Oldtimer45]

I have the same problem. RNFP or single shot. I use a 240 gr. LBT,it will make holes in 1/4 inch mild steel.

[JayinAZ]

I shoot a 265 gr RNFP I had Dan at Mountain Molds make for me a few years ago. It feeds pretty well.

[runfiverun]

have you tried seating them so the front drive band is about flush with the case mouth?
I do this with some 45 colt and 44 mag boolits and my lever gun will feed them fine this way but not seated out.

http://s417.photobucket.com/user/_Dn...tml?sort=3&o=1

but just in case, this is a preliminary drawing I just sent to someone interested in starting up making molds.
the nose might need a tick shortened but the weight is certainly correct and it will fill the gap in the marlins. [just need to measure some revolvers for oal]

[felix]

Shape the nose more like a sierra condom length and add gas check (416) for microgroove cleanliness. 220 grains is all that is needed. ... felix

[W.R.Buchanan]

All you need to do is chamfer the chamber mouth .040.050 and our problem will be solved.

I have written about this here many times.

This one will cycle anything as fast as you can operate the lever.

With SWC's the ledge on the boolit gets caught on the sharp edge of the chamber mouth. (Also true of Wide Flat Nose boolits) Chamfering it eliminates this problem. This does the same thing as chamfering the chamber mouths on a Revolver cylinder so that rounds find the hole easier.

I guarantee this will fix your problem.

Randy

[felix]

Very good idea, Randy! I never looked that closely at the barrel's chamber end. Marlin, shame on you!!! ... felix

[HATCH]

I just shoot FPRN boolits and they function just fine for me.

[Salmoneye]

Truncated Cone.

[45 acp]

I guess I need to start looking for another mould

Thanks everyone

[JayinAZ]

All you need to do is chamfer the chamber mouth .040.050 and our problem will be solved.

I have written about this here many times.

This one will cycle anything as fast as you can operate the lever.

With SWC's the ledge on the boolit gets caught on the sharp edge of the chamber mouth. (Also true of Wide Flat Nose boolits) Chamfering it eliminates this problem. This does the same thing as chamfering the chamber mouths on a Revolver cylinder so that rounds find the hole easier.

I guarantee this will fix your problem.

Randy

What's the best way to do that, Randy?

[Capt. Methane]

Okay Randy, I'll buy that as a fix but I'm with Jay-how do you accomplish that? Specific angle of the chamfer?