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Thread: Making gas checks for an oversized shank?

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    Making gas checks for an oversized shank?

    I've been thinking about getting a Frechex III as my first check maker. I've got a 22 cal mold that has a oversized gas check shank, by a couple thou. Hornady and Blammers checks are too tight to fit on the boolit. Having never made any of my own gas checks, here is my question. Would I be able to use a thinner material to use on this particular boolit with the oversized shank? If this is possible, it would be a bonus to me to finally be able to use this particular mold.
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    I have several 22 molds. one mold is a Herters pointy. It has a larger shank, I didn't measure it, but puting a copper hornady check on is a chore for sure. My standard size FCIII 22 tool and .008 lith plate makes a check that is much easier to install. and installs on the other boolit styles I have as well. I'm not sure that the FCIII tool is making it larger, but I think the .008 lith plate will squeeze/stetch on easier. Once they are sized on, I can't pick them off with a finger nail.
    Maybe get some samples to try ?
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    Now, I am not taking credit for this as I just read this on an another thread but for what it's worth:


    Some members have been modifying a punch and I see no reason why a bolt turned down on the end would not suffice and opening the mouth of a hard to start gas check (the crimp on like Hornady). It will take a little time but the result may be worth the added step.

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    Smile flat nose punch for flaring gas checks

    I too have been flaring gas checks with a flat nose punch modified with a taper to get the correct amount of flair. See photo.
    Notice the 7mm and .30 caliber punches are the same diameter, but have different tapers on the end of the punch.

    I cut off part of the end of the 5/16" punch which I had been using as a gas check flaring tool for 7mm gas checks. This allowed the punch to go deeper into the cup of the gas check and flare the gas check slightly further. Now the gas check easily slips onto the gas check shank of Lyman #287405.

    Used 5/16" punch a gas check flaring tool for .30 caliber gas checks. Now the gas check easily slips onto the gas check shank of Lyman #311465.

    I cut off part of the end of a 1/2" center punch (Dascopro) to make a .45 caliber gas check flaring tool. These flaired gas checks fit Lyman #454485.
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    Why not just send Charlie 2-3 of your bullets and have him make you a tool to fit. He did that for me in 40 caliber long ago. I have a 401 Herter Magnum that required I size to .403/.4035. I have 4 molds and the shanks all vary slightly. Charlie made me a tool with 4 mandrels so that I could use different thickness of material, depending on the shank of my bullets. It has worked out very well.
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    This is complicated for us old fellows. I use .008 litho plate for the fat 22's and .0092 Amerimax for the skinny ones. All in the same FCIII.

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    Sagebrush, I was thinking that would probably work, thanks for the tip.
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BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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