35 Remington 336

[DeanWinchester]

I've been wanting a 35 cal something for a while now. I've got dies and brass for 357 Herrett and .358 Winchester in anticipation of actually owning one. Well,I happened upon a nice clean Marlin 336 in 35 Remington and it followed me home. I traded for it and I figure I got about $300 in it at the most. It's VERY clean with about 95% blueing. The serial number starts with a K and I understand tht means its around 1953. Ballard rifling too, which is NICE. Don't wanna fight micro groove.

You can't make 35 brass from 308 like a 358 so I'm a little bummed about that but I don't see any MAJOR difference in cast load performance between the two. Reckon I did alright? I'm going to have to trade for a set of dies and an Mdie but at least I already have three different molds for it. A 200g Rn and a pair of 200g RNFP. Not to mention the 38 cal molds I have for handgun that would make great plinker boolits.

I'll post up a trade in the classifieds soon as I work up so e trade goods but if anyone has an extra set of dies and a neck expander, pm me please.

Any thoughts on the rifle welcome. I'll get some pics up soon.

[DeanWinchester]

Fit and finish on this is as good as any Marlin Ive seen. All the Marlins Ive seen haven't had very good fitting at all but this is particularly good.

Bore sparkles with sharp rifling. THe guy I got it from said it isn't totally original as the sling swivels are aftermarket and the rear sight is Marble buckhorn. Who cares, I shoot, I dont collect. I really like the wide beaver tail shape of the fore arm. Why dont they do that anymore?

[starmac]

In my way of thinking, that is what it was built for. Nice gun by the way.

[TXGunNut]

You did well, IMHO. Fine looking rifle, obviously well taken care of. I lucked into a nice later production 336 awhile back and am very pleased with it. 358 may be easier to find/make brass for but I'd rather have the 336 in 35 Rem. Brass is available from Winchester but if you find some RP that's what I prefer, WW is plenty good, tho.
I used the expander from a 38-357 die set until I got a suitable M-type expander made, die was a little short but it worked. Good luck on the die quest.

[Salmoneye]

You can't make 35 brass from 308 like a 358 so I'm a little bummed

Yes you can...

It's just a little more work...

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...l=1#post320637

[smkummer]

That is one sweet rifle and do it right by finding the correct marked brass, it may take a little effort right now but you will enjoy it better not having to make the other brass work. About the time you get the modified brass to work, you will stumble on some correct factory brass. Or just sell the rifle to me for what you paid for it!

[DeanWinchester]

I hope this thing shoots. I've been molesting it all afternoon. It's balanced well.
I've had several '94's but this is my first marlin. I've been hesitant to try a marlin because almost all the ones I've seen around here were late model and micro groove. They sure weren't fitted as well as this one. That's why I jumped on it even though I wasn't planning on gettin into 35 Remington.

I've found some factory brass for sale in a few places. I've got a box of factory ammo. I'm going to just use those twenty pcs to develop a load and see how we get along.
I've got 3lbs of AA2015 and that's what I'm going to run with. I've got good data for it and its recently became my new do-all rifle powder.

I have an RCBS 200g flat point gc mold, a Lyman 358413 200g rngc, a couple of Keith style plain base 158g, RCBS 158g pbrn, and a Lee flat point gc 158g
I'll start with the RCBS flat point, it's the coolest looking boolit, LOL.

All I've read says these guys are very cast friendly. Anything I should know about them before I dive in?

[nekshot]

Yes, that gun does the same as good pipe tobacco in a room, it smells good. Nice gun. When I was soul searching if to ream a barrel with a 35 remmy or a 358 I ran across a thread from a fellow who had a marlin guide gun in 35 remmy and took to elk with it. He was using rcbs200 cast hard and was pushing the envelope a little on the load but the one was ar around 235 yards and the other 250. They used a range finder and both shots were pass thru's with a dead elk. It was his only high power and he knew his gun and practiced alot. I for one respect the 35 remington.

[starmac]

Beware the man with one gun, is an old saying, and it doesn't really matter what gun it is. lol
I didn't realize marlin mad a 35 rem guide gun.

[Lefty SRH]

WOW, nice score DW! I really enjoy my 35 Remmy 336, mine is a 77 model. I'd like to find another one. They are fun to shoot and load for. I plan to try some 358311's in mine soon along with some Trail Boss for plinkin and fun.
Dean, keep checking Buffalo Arms Company for Remington stamped brass. They will eventually get it back in stock. Then again, you can always use Winchester brass also. The cool/good thing is .35 Remmy is low pressure cartridge so the brass last a LONG time. I have yet to split one of mine yet and I can't tell you how many times I've loaded the same box of 50.

[TXGunNut]

Beware the man with one gun, is an old saying, and it doesn't really matter what gun it is. lol
I didn't realize marlin mad a 35 rem guide gun.

Yes, I think there was another chambering as well. 45-70, 450 Marlin, 35 Rem...can't recall the other but a member here had a pic of it along with a 45/70 and the 35 Rem, IIRC.

[thebigmac]

Yes, I think there was another chambering as well. 45-70, 450 Marlin, 35 Rem...can't recall the other but a member here had a pic of it along with a 45/70 and the 35 Rem, IIRC.

[B] Dean; Check your PM's.[/B]

[Mk42gunner]

Yes, I think there was another chambering as well. 45-70, 450 Marlin, 35 Rem...can't recall the other but a member here had a pic of it along with a 45/70 and the 35 Rem, IIRC.

They made one in .444 Marlin also. I don't think they called them all guide guns, but they were all on the same principal-- short barrels and at least the first ones were ported.

The one that I had my hands on in the local gun shop had a forearm that felt like a 2x4, it made the 1950's perch belly forearms feel like a splinter.

To Dean, I think you did well in this day and age to get that carbine for $300.00, trading or not. I have a 1950 336A that makes all the new ones I see feel like they are full of sand.

Robert

[DeanWinchester]

I understand the sand comment. I've seen several that,dang near grind open and close.
This one awfully smooth. Not perfect but nice. Opening it and looking in, I see a little crud. I'm betting a full tear down, through enema, and a good grease/oiling would make it even better. Sure wont hurt anything.

[AnnieOakley]

Hey DeanWinchester, last year we were in Nashville and headed west and stopped at all the gun stores we could find. We could not find one .35 Remington lever in middle TN. Almost a year later we found a Savage 99 in Clarksville, my husband was quite thrilled. That was his Christmas present last year.

We were curious about where you found your Marlin? We saw some 30/30's in White Bluff, TN on our journey. We are from Western Kentucky, by the way. We like to look at gun stores anytime we travel to Nashville or the surrounding area (or anywhere for that matter).

[C. Latch]

That is a beautiful rifle and $300 is a steal.

Congratulations.

[C. Latch]

Annie Oakley,

You'll notice that I live in Mississippi but have ties to middle TN. There's a place between Columbia and I-65 exit 46 called Steve's, they used to have a lot of stuff. Haven't had time to stop in there lately; every time I go by there I'm in a hurry.

[TXGunNut]

I understand the sand comment. I've seen several that,dang near grind open and close.
This one awfully smooth. Not perfect but nice. Opening it and looking in, I see a little crud. I'm betting a full tear down, through enema, and a good grease/oiling would make it even better. Sure wont hurt anything.

The 2008 vintage 30-30 I lucked into yesterday is smooth and tight, am very pleased with it. Last 336 was very similar, a little shooting and it was very smooth and the action lightened up a bit.
I suspect a 60 yr old gun just needs some old oil washed out and some fresh oil applied. Then you'll understand that they just don't build them that way any more, never did. Good leverguns just get better with age.

[old beekeeper]

You are going to love the 35 remington. My 336 shoots everything from the Lee 125 gr rnfp and Lee's 158 gr RNFP, but it loves the Ranchdog 175 grain TL bullet. I shoot it without gas checks at low velocity and it is very accurate, easy on the shoulder. Next to my Marlin 1894 .357 mag, this is my favorite gun. Brass can be a bit hard to find but it is available, Remington still makes it as well as Winchester, they are just not making it now. I went to Lynchburg, VA this weekend to visit my son and today I visited a flea market, found a guy with a plastic bin full of .35's, gave him $15 and when I got home and counted it, there were over 400 pieces of brass, some of it looked new, most was probably only once fired, so I now have an inventory of about 2000 cases. Couldn't get over the luck. You might try some of the yard sales and flea markets, maybe lady luck will smile on you. Told a buddy about it and he suggested I buy a bunch of lottery tickets while my luck was still hot. Wish you luck in finding some brass, but don't let it discourage you. Just keep looking.

Beekeeper

[wrench man]

Fit and finish on this is as good as any Marlin Ive seen. All the Marlins Ive seen haven't had very good fitting at all but this is particularly good.

You must have been looking at the recently manufactured Remlins!??
35 Remington brass is available, Cabela's had it hanging on the rack up until about a week ago?, the LGS has several hundred on the shelf, it was/is all Remington, I prefer the WW myself.
I have never given one thought to running a Pb Boolit down the tube?, mines a '50 (G) 336A, a full charge of H335 pushing a 200grn Core-Lokt hits like Thor's Hammer!, the last 5 shot group I did was just over an inch off the hood of my Jeep, good nuf for a hunt'n gun!