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    You're thinking of the KTWs, which were green.

    The Black Talons of ill repute were indeed black. I still have some in 9mm, although I don't know where the box is... one day it might be worth something to a collector! Even if SXTs are pretty much the Same Xact Thing...

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    bangerjim,
    I had the same problem with the rustoleum stuff I tried last night, I put them back in the pot, but the rustoleum stuff did not burn in the pot, I spooned it out, I will use the black from now on, I shot those, I know it works.

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    im going to try this stuff next.

    http://www.seymourpaint.com/green_rebar_epoxy.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azshooter2013 View Post
    bangerjim,
    I had the same problem with the rustoleum stuff I tried last night, I put them back in the pot, but the rustoleum stuff did not burn in the pot, I spooned it out, I will use the black from now on, I shot those, I know it works.
    Darn, I jumped the gun and bought the rustoleum along with the VHT. I thought it passed the smash test.
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    It did for me twice, but since then, not so much, im not sure what I did different from the first 2 times with the rustoleum stuff. Guess ill keep trying to figure it out.

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    yeah, so i tried the spray on Rust-o-leum white, thinking it might be different than the brush on. Scrapes off easily w a fingernail.

    I will wait 7 days for a full cure then try the scrape and smash tests again.

    Scraping was definitely harder w the paint on, but still not fingernail resistant. Will smash them (the paint on type) tonight and see.

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    I am wondering what is the point of all this extra work. Why are we painting lead boolits and then baking them? Do they shoot better? Lead less? Or is it just to make them look cool? Somebody enlighten me please............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash Corrigan View Post
    I am wondering what is the point of all this extra work. Why are we painting lead boolits and then baking them? Do they shoot better? Lead less? Or is it just to make them look cool? Somebody enlighten me please............
    It can be faster for some. Also, you can use softer alloys and don't have to be so concerned about exact sizing and still avoid leading problems. The different color bullets can be pretty cool looking.
    I like it because its just another new thing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash Corrigan View Post
    I am wondering what is the point of all this extra work. Why are we painting lead boolits and then baking them? Do they shoot better? Lead less? Or is it just to make them look cool? Somebody enlighten me please............
    I HATE SMOKE! ! ! I shoot USPSA and Steel Challenge type stuff. Clouds in front of me distract me.

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    Is the VHT a one use product? I am under the impression that epoxy paint is mixed and must be used before it hardens. I'm very interested in trying it but not if it's once or twice and done.

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    VHT is premixed and is good for as many uses as you can get from the can.

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    Hey all. Post # 2!
    Just stopped at auto zone on the way home from work and bought the two cans they had for $15 and change. The guy asked what I was using it for " 'cause he heard good things about it" and I reluctantly spewed out the boolit coating speech. He said, "yea, that's why the store manager buys all of that we get in".
    Who in the Brownstown/Flat Rock area of Michigan that's the store manager of the auto zone is a caster/loader?
    BTW, I'm the ultimate noob at casting and you guys are a true inspiration. You're making me spend a lot of money on everything from lead to molds to antique cast iron muffin pans. My wife will probably seek out and kill every one of you.
    If you live long enough, I hope to post up some of my own tests with the coatings and be a true contributor to this site so you can see how you've helped me.
    Thanks.

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    Wow! Great info. Fingers crossed.

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    "im going to try this stuff next."

    I applaud your experimentation/testing. If nothing else, it appears that VHT is a winner and possibly the Seymour green rebar epoxy. A single part epoxy in a can for a fraction of the cost is a definite advance. We just need to name the VHT process after you. "AZ-Coat" or "AZ-VHT" or whatever works for you.
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    Good job Azshooter, this is readily available, low cost, and the lower cook temp should help retain bhn. Have you done the acetone wipe test with the VHT? I noticed that it passed the smash test, but the wipe test seems to be equally important. I have had several different attempts with piglet and Klass Kote that would pass the smash but not the wipe.

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    Yes the vht did pass acetone wipe after baking. I think I mentioned it early in the thread.

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    I dont need anything named after me, its just something fun to do in my spare time, thanks for the thought though.

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    Ok, I ordered some Powder Coat today from Powder buy the pound and I guess it's VHT tomorrow. I've never tried anything like that but have been casting for some time. I've had good luck with Lee 9mm 125 in a CZ clone with no leading using the 45/45/10 formula I found on this site. I've also had pretty good luck with my .40 with a couple of different Lee molds and the tumble lube.

    I mostly shoot Bayou bullets in my .40 and talked to Donnie about buying coating from him when he first announced he would sell to the public. I just didn't want to jump in that deep at the time. I may continue buying most of my bullets from him for USPSA and IDPA use. But I've had lots of leading in my Colt Trooper III.357 Mag, I really just haven't had time to work out the issues with it. So I may try PC and VHT coated bullets for it. And I bought a 1984 Marlin in 357 recently so I can give them a try in it too. I also got involved in a couple of group buys on nice .30 cal and .22 cal molds. I'll certainly try this for my AR and maybe in my Marlin 30/30.

    Just don't count on me getting results back on all of this very soon. Too much to do and not much time. But I'm looking forward to the experiment.

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    ok I just did one more qwick test on the vht coating, not that it means much but I thought I would try heating the coated bullet with a torch to see if the coating would burn before the lead melted, and well you guys can be the judge.Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azshooter2013 View Post
    ok I just did one more qwick test on the vht coating, not that it means much but I thought I would try heating the coated bullet with a torch to see if the coating would burn before the lead melted, and well you guys can be the judge.Click image for larger version. 

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    That is Awsome..! I have a can of black VHT and my white VHT should be in tomorrow. I'll be joining the ranks of the testers soon.

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