Measuring Powder by Weight as Opposed to Volume

[Dan Cash]

I know the Lyman 55 throws by volume. My main concern has to do with the shearing action on BP substitutes (Pyrodex RS). I understand BP has a tendency to ignite when it isn't wanted. Therefore the hazmat charge when shipping. Pyrodex RS seems to have no haxmat charges making me think the shearing action of a Lyman 55 would be no problem.

Your Lyman 55 is as safe as it gets when used with BP. The horror stories are Internet generated myth and superstition.

[Fly]

Man don't post something that is just not true.NEVER & I mean NEVER has there ever been a case
that static electric spark ever went off from a shooter in the field or other wise.It's statements
like this that keep people thinking about black powder as they do.

I handle more of it than most.I have done so much research on this I can't see straight.

Fly (sorry about the rant, but I could not help it)

[fouronesix]

It may have something to do with "amount" of static electricity or lawyers. So be it- I'm not worried one way or the other. I have three 55s. Two dedicated to smokeless. One dedicated to BP. I purchased the BP model simply because I got it on sale and for the same price as the regular models on sale. The nice feature of it is the large capacity, aluminum tube. The only differences I see are the larger capacity and the cast iron body has a thick, quality powder coating finish. The internals seem identical to the older Lyman and Ideal Models.

[mooman76]

Some manufactures are now putting BP in plastic containers. If it wasn't safe, they wouldn't be do that.

[Fly]

Some manufactures are now putting BP in plastic containers. If it wasn't safe, they wouldn't be do that.

See here we go again.Plastic creates more static then steel.If a stun gun with over 100000 volts can not set it off, you must ask WHY?
It is HEAT, Volts & amps are two different things.A stun gun will knock any man on his a$$.But will not burn him.If it did they
would never be used.My lord for give the people that do not know what they are talking about..
Fly

[fouronesix]

Exactly. Lots of volts and almost no amps = very low specific heat. Up the amperage a bit and fry/kaboom! Most folk's idea of static electricity is popping your finger on a ground in the winter after walking across a carpet. I guess it all depends on the amperage carried in the discharge. The arc across a spark plug I think is just an electro-mechanically concentrated static discharge with a bit more amperage. A lightning bolt is a very big concentrated static discharge with a ton of amps.

[Fly]

Exactly. Lots of volts and almost no amps = very low specific heat. Up the amperage a bit and fry/kaboom! Most folk's idea of static electricity is popping your finger on a ground in the winter after walking across a carpet. I guess it all depends on the amperage carried in the discharge. The arc across a spark plug I think is just an electro-mechanically concentrated static discharge with a bit more amperage. A lightning bolt is a very big concentrated static discharge with a ton of amps.

Thanks for your reply.It is also DC vs AC current.Tom Edison was in a war with Westhinghouse in selling electricity to the US.He wanted
DC & not AC.He said how much more the dangers were involved in AC because the heat in amps.So he invented the electric chair to prove his point.
Static is DC.I rest my case, the last I will say on this, subject from me.
Fly (Geeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)

[7of7]

7of7

If this approach works for you with black powder I have to believe it will work for Pyrodex RS. Thanks. Could you provide more information on the Tapp Plastics containers. I Googled “Tapp Plastics” and found there page but couldn't find any containers that stood out as being the ones you use.

http://www.tapplastics.com/product/p...containers/233
These are the ones I use.
On the static electricity issue, I think it dates back to the incident onboard one of our battleships where powder ignited and blew up a turret. (since they use black powder)

[Sensai]

E=IR It's not just a good idea, it's the law. If you have a tremendous amount of voltage (E) then it can be converted to a tremendous amount of current (I) under the proper conditions of resistance (R). I work with electrostatic dissipative equipment every day, and know a little about static electricity. You can (Geeezzzzz) all you want, but you can't change the laws of physics. As I've already stated, you're free to do your own risk analysis and act accordingly. You may well be right in your assumption from empirical data that black powder can't be set off by static electricity. I am just not willing to take the chance when the results can be so catastrophic. By the way, it's been proven that static electric discharges are indeed AC. The DC charge is built up until the dielectric barrier is breeched, but then the current passes both ways for several cycles. Has lightning ever started a fire ? (Geeezzzzzz)

[Fly]

On the static electricity issue, I think it dates back to the incident onboard one of our battleships where powder ignited and blew up a turret. (since they use black powder) .No it was not static that caused that.I was a Gunners Mate in the Navy & I know it was from a hot ember from the previous shot.The powder charges
were in silk bags & loaded behind the shell.Each man had his job.

One was to clean the chamber before the next shot, was loaded.Remember these were kids, & in the course battle things happen.It happened more
than once.

If you have a tremendous amount of voltage (E) then it can be converted to a tremendous amount of current (I) under the proper conditions of resistance (R).

Well (ya)!But it takes some work.We are taking staic from your body here!Geeeeezzzz..

Fly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm6PEdBcQ6s