these two molds have eluded me so far. would any one know of a manufacturer who would make these moulds? the only one i know of is hoch. also if anyone that has either of these would be willing to sell. i am prepared to be generous with pricing as it is hard to obtain any of these rarer items in australia. oh to have purchased all these items when first interested in 1968! but, as they say ....HINDSIGHT IS ALWAYS 20/20.