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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeInMaine View Post
    INTERESTING that such a tool is made which increases Ballistics Coefficient, which is a concept discussed in another thread. Hmmmm.

    Guess BC ***IS*** important to some people after all.

    Remember Duke, some want no "tip" at all. Sorta like a wadcutter from the .223

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.Ph. 380 View Post

    This guy at a wall... It about me. Persistence passing in obstinacy - attribute of the layman. But I also is the layman. The layman - happy researcher and "pioneer" that already is known.


    Quote Originally Posted by R.Ph. 380 View Post
    some want no "tip" at all
    My opinion: the bullet should be beautiful... And to correspond twist barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_4x4 View Post
    The layman - happy researcher and "pioneer" that already is known.My opinion: the bullet should be beautiful... And to correspond twist barrel.
    Yes. Absolutely! We have a saying, "Form Follows Function." and "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

    If you like it, it's beautiful and should be the way you see it. I very much like your bullets. They are very nicely done.

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    Thank.

    I am glad, that has appeared in good campaign.

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    I shall be grateful for advice(councils) on designing a bullet .224" in J4.

    First, that I want to hear: what mistakes are be.

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    J4 jackets are made of a thicker material than rimfire cases. if your rimfire jackets come out of the de-rim die at +/- .705 you should order the next longer size J4.
    RCE here in the US offers a package of 3 different length J4's for .224 projectiles, that will let you make 100 of each size to see what fits your needs best without buying a large quantity of jackets that you might not use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zymurgy50 View Post
    J4 jackets are made of a thicker material than rimfire cases. if your rimfire jackets come out of the de-rim die at +/- .705 you should order the next longer size J4.
    RCE here in the US offers a package of 3 different length J4's for .224 projectiles, that will let you make 100 of each size to see what fits your needs best without buying a large quantity of jackets that you might not use.
    I don't think RCE can ship out of the country, I'm not sure of that you might want to ask first.

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    It's good to know that there are handloaders there. With Tula and Wolf ammunition plants, are factory bullets expensive on the economy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkintime View Post
    I don't think RCE can ship out of the country, I'm not sure of that you might want to ask first.
    I do not know what the RCE, but the export license for me my supplier of the United States prepares for my every order.

    I buy J4 legally. J4 is not the final product, a material.

    A few years ago I could buy in the U.S. export license bullets and cartridge cases, but now the situation has changed, but not in the U.S., and Russia. Jesuit introduced a ban on international mail containing a bullet or cartridge cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baker1425 View Post
    With Tula and Wolf ammunition plants, are factory bullets expensive on the economy?
    Sorry, but my program interpreter translated the question "crooked." I did not understand it. Repeat please other words.

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    Generally in the post number 86 I asked for advice on the design of bullets.

    And I warn against errors in the design.


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    2 sprinkintime

    RCE = http://www.rceco.com/ ?

    Do I understand correctly?

    If "yes", then I'm talking about his brother Dave Corbin know, but he did not try to order.
    Last edited by Alex_4x4; 09-13-2013 at 09:40 AM.

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    Yes,you understand correctly. I plan on ordering some jackets from him in the near future, it all depends on on the amount of cash on hand.
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    Distance hundred meters.
    Five series of five shots.
    Class sizes are in centimeter along the outer edge holes.

    The latter group is quite decent. It seems that something felt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_4x4 View Post
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    Distance hundred meters.
    Five series of five shots.
    Class sizes are in inches along the outer edge holes.

    The latter group is quite decent. It seems that something felt.
    Alex: Very nice bullets, what powder and how many grains did you use on the last group on your target Blaster
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    Powder: Sunar 5,56 - 20 gr.; Bullet - 79,6 gr.; Rifles Tikka T-3, twist 8".

    And still, sizes of groups not in inches, and in centimeters.

    My program the interpreter from time to time begins to live by the life and translates incorrectly.
    Last edited by Alex_4x4; 09-21-2013 at 02:41 PM.

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    New HP'-RBT 8-S... 6 mm ... 113,7+/-0,2 gr.

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    The first experience of 6 mm.

    J4 - 1,150"

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    I sure would like to making those 6mm bullets. No boattail dies so far.
    To lazy to chase arrows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_4x4 View Post
    I'll introduce you now with my tools, materials, and some of the results swaging and reloading. I'm only working with the .224". I still have a rifle under .243 Win, but I have not collected all the necessary equipment for stamping 6 mm bullets.

    This is my press. I took it from Dave Corbin.
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    This is my dies and other accessories.
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    This lead to the cores.
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    This is the material for the shell: reduced .22lr and J4.
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    This is the finished product .224 " from 45 to 80 gr.
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    It stocks for next Friday.
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    This is my rifle, top with a 12 "twist, the bottom with 8" twist.
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    And this is the target for a hundred meters from last Friday.
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    I know that the result is not pretty. Shooting fast fifty shots in two hours. The barrel warmed up after the second series of five.
    Very Nice, Sir!!!

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