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    Breville "SMART OVEN" is UNBOXED AND RUNNING it's programmed first cycle.

    When it completes I plan to set it at 375 degrees F and check

    programmed temp against two thermometers for my records book.

    Working on some Drying/Baking trays from EXPANDED ALUMINUM today also.

    Sometime this week I hope to have my first COATED PROJECTILES finished.

    We'll see how the learning experience goes.

    I plan on following AUSGLOCK'S format from page 19 of this thread.

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    Breville "SMART OVEN" is UNBOXED AND RUNNING it's programmed first cycle.

    When it completes I plan to set it at 375 degrees F and check

    programmed temp against two thermometers for my records book.

    Working on some Drying/Baking trays from EXPANDED ALUMINUM today also.

    Sometime this week I hope to have my first COATED PROJECTILES finished

    We'll see how the learning experience goes.

    I plan on following AUSGLOCK'S format from page 19 of this thread.

    ****UPDATE****

    Breville SMART OVEN set at 380 degrees F

    Regular INSIDE the OVEN THERMOMETER reads about 380F

    Electronic Thermometer (Bar-B-Que Probe unit) READS 378 DEGREES F

    N.O.E. Electronic Thermometer (Probe) that came with one of his BULLET MOLDS

    reads 368 degrees F.

    380 degrees F on Breville oven setting looks like a good starting point.
    Last edited by Moonman; 11-18-2013 at 07:44 PM. Reason: Updated Info

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    Quote Originally Posted by btroj View Post
    Any odors or anything when they melt?
    A little, not as much as I thought they would be. No smoke though.
    Don't worry about life, no-one gets out alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gateway Bullets View Post
    Trev





    Here are some pics of the product to wet your whistle!

    GUYS, DO NOT BOTHER HI-TEK ABOUT THIS PRODUCT PLEASE. IT IS STILL MONTHS BEFORE ITS READY HERE IN THE STATES. TO BE FAIR TO HI TEK, HE DOESNT NEED A MILLION EMAILS ASKING ABOUT IT.

    Attachment 87754Attachment 87753
    To all members,
    Please be advised, that as per the above advice by Gateway Bullets, it is confirmed, that the powdered system is still under development, and is not available commercially.
    Samples as displayed on this blog were supplied, specifically to have tested in many and varied applications to determine suitability.
    It will be many months until commercial materials will be available.
    I thank all for the interest in the products, and I promise to make any commercial releases public as things develop.
    HI-TEK

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    HI-TEK/Ausglock,

    Made my FIRST HI-TEK coated BOOLITS today.

    I choose 45ACP 230 grain RN to coat.

    I followed Ausglocks directions from page 19 of this thread.

    I did half of them in DARK GREEN and half in GOLD.

    Both sets were done with REGULAR CATALYST, I do have the EXTREME but

    have not used it as of yet.

    Both sets WITHSTOOD THE ACETONE WIPE TEST and the SMASH TEST A-OK.

    All were baked in a Breville BVO800XL "SMART CONVECTION OVEN" set at 380F (193C) for 10 minutes.

    Boolits were PRE-HEATED A LITTLE WITH A HAIR DRYER before placing them into the oven to bake.

    Colors were baked in separate BATCHES (70 in each), I could have done more per batch if needed.

    I mixed 5-1-7 in a Plastic "COKE" BOTTLE, (1 1/4 TEASPOONS COLOR, 1/4 TEASPOON CATALYST,

    1 3/4 TEASPOONS OF ACETONE.

    USED 3/4 TEASPOON OF MIXTURE TO COAT each coat of the BATCH of 70 (45 ACP) 230 grain PILLS.

    It seemed to do well, coating the Boolits and NONE left over POOLING INSIDE THE MIXING BOWL.

    The final product with 2 coats looks slightly better TO ME with the Gold colored ones.

    I hope to have some sized and loaded for testing at an indoor range this weekend.

    Special Thanks to Donnie at BAYOU BULLETS for fast service on my order (1/2 order of each color)

    plus an added can of EXTREME CATALYST too.

    Keep up THE GOOD WORK MATES!

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    Good stuff, Moonman. Any photos of your first batch?
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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    Ausglock,

    Sorry No Camera or Know How To if I did have one.

    For a First Attempt they sure look good to me,

    THANKS TO YOUR DIRECTIONS.

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    No worries, mate.
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonman View Post
    HI-TEK/Ausglock,

    Made my FIRST HI-TEK coated BOOLITS today.

    I choose 45ACP 230 grain RN to coat.

    I followed Ausglocks directions from page 19 of this thread.

    I did half of them in DARK GREEN and half in GOLD.

    Both sets were done with REGULAR CATALYST, I do have the EXTREME but

    have not used it as of yet.

    Both sets WITHSTOOD THE ACETONE WIPE TEST and the SMASH TEST A-OK.

    All were baked in a Breville BVO800XL "SMART CONVECTION OVEN" set at 380F (193C) for 10 minutes.

    Boolits were PRE-HEATED A LITTLE WITH A HAIR DRYER before placing them into the oven to bake.

    Colors were baked in separate BATCHES (70 in each), I could have done more per batch if needed.

    I mixed 5-1-7 in a Plastic "COKE" BOTTLE, (1 1/4 TEASPOONS COLOR, 1/4 TEASPOON CATALYST,

    1 3/4 TEASPOONS OF ACETONE.

    USED 3/4 TEASPOON OF MIXTURE TO COAT each coat of the BATCH of 70 (45 ACP) 230 grain PILLS.

    It seemed to do well, coating the Boolits and NONE left over POOLING INSIDE THE MIXING BOWL.

    The final product with 2 coats looks slightly better TO ME with the Gold colored ones.

    I hope to have some sized and loaded for testing at an indoor range this weekend.

    Special Thanks to Donnie at BAYOU BULLETS for fast service on my order (1/2 order of each color)

    plus an added can of EXTREME CATALYST too.

    Keep up THE GOOD WORK MATES!

    Moonman,
    Thanks much for your input.
    I am glad that things worked out for you.
    We all would appreciate your shooting results when completed.
    Thank you much for trying and using the coatings.
    HI-TEK

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    Sat on the patio most of the day waiting for startack express to arrive.. nope not today, so spent the evening casting more stock to coat.
    Don't worry about life, no-one gets out alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin460 View Post
    Sat on the patio most of the day waiting for startack express to arrive.. nope not today, so spent the evening casting more stock to coat.
    I am most confused?????
    What were you expecting?
    I have had no contact about you requiring any thing from me?

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    grem. have you contacted Hitek?????
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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    I just PM'ed him Trev.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonman View Post
    ****UPDATE****

    Breville SMART OVEN set at 380 degrees F

    Regular INSIDE the OVEN THERMOMETER reads about 380F

    Electronic Thermometer (Bar-B-Que Probe unit) READS 378 DEGREES F

    N.O.E. Electronic Thermometer (Probe) that came with one of his BULLET MOLDS

    reads 368 degrees F.

    380 degrees F on Breville oven setting looks like a good starting point.
    Thanks moonman for the update, I have been considering the breville smart oven to start coating with, nice to know it does what it claims.
    Did you notice any hotspots in the oven?
    In a lot of the baking pics people have posted there seems to be a noticeable difference in the coated projectiles due to uneven heat. I know with my regular fan forced kitchen oven you notice the difference went cooking fries etc. The smart oven with 5 heating elements and fan should eliminate them.

    Transferred some funds to Joe last night so should have my supplies next week. Might be a little while before I start coating, need to have a couple of good casting sessions. I'm waiting for a few things to arrive to build my temp controller before my next session also need to get my mould handles back from a few blokes I've lent them to. Upgraded to 6 cav from 2 cav in a few lee moulds, sold the 2 cav and no mould handles in the shed.

    Coming up to summer holidays here in Aus so my son will be home from school, wont take any effort to get him involved in casting, loading, coating, shooting and testing. Plenty to try it in as I cast from 22-45cal and load everything from ISSF (bullseye pistol to hunting rifle loads)
    Will use him for testing the rifle loads, I consider myself a reasonable shot. I can shoot 1/2moa groups with a few of my more accurate rifles easy enough of the bench but he is already outshooting me of the bench. Finished 2nd in his first comp earlier this year using one of my varmint rifles against far more specialised equipment and last varminting session pulled of a 668y shot on a rabbit. Bit of luck involved in that shot but he takes the heads of them regularly enough out to 400y to know it wasn't just luck.

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    What a great read and what a journey!

    Have been lurking here for a while!

    Many thanks to Hi Tek, Ausglock, Gunoil, Gateway, Leadman and all the others who have shared their knowledge.

    Place my first order with Joe the other day and now looking to the next part of the journey!

    Many thanks for this magnificent thread!

    Another one from OZ!

    SULLA
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    PS Leadman, I understand the challenges you face. Stay well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 220 View Post
    Thanks moonman for the update, I have been considering the breville smart oven to start coating with, nice to know it does what it claims.
    Did you notice any hotspots in the oven?
    In a lot of the baking pics people have posted there seems to be a noticeable difference in the coated projectiles due to uneven heat. I know with my regular fan forced kitchen oven you notice the difference went cooking fries etc. The smart oven with 5 heating elements and fan should eliminate them.

    Transferred some funds to Joe last night so should have my supplies next week. Might be a little while before I start coating, need to have a couple of good casting sessions. I'm waiting for a few things to arrive to build my temp controller before my next session also need to get my mould handles back from a few blokes I've lent them to. Upgraded to 6 cav from 2 cav in a few lee moulds, sold the 2 cav and no mould handles in the shed.

    Coming up to summer holidays here in Aus so my son will be home from school, wont take any effort to get him involved in casting, loading, coating, shooting and testing. Plenty to try it in as I cast from 22-45cal and load everything from ISSF (bullseye pistol to hunting rifle loads)
    Will use him for testing the rifle loads, I consider myself a reasonable shot. I can shoot 1/2moa groups with a few of my more accurate rifles easy enough of the bench but he is already outshooting me of the bench. Finished 2nd in his first comp earlier this year using one of my varmint rifles against far more specialised equipment and last varminting session pulled of a 668y shot on a rabbit. Bit of luck involved in that shot but he takes the heads of them regularly enough out to 400y to know it wasn't just luck.
    The breville is the way to go. No hotspots in mine. reliable and consistent. The way the elements work like dimmers, you have no cycling or cool down period associated with other small ovens. It doesn't overshoot the temp to maintain. Put the alloy in and it steadily climbs to desired temp plus or minus three degrees. In my other ovens that was not the case and in my opinion and Joe's a large part of my problem. Worth the money just to save the headache. Many have had success with the other ovens but most who have done a ton of it seem to be retrofitting to a PID i.e. Ausglock and others... Leadman too IIRC. I have saved my other two ovens and will retrofit those eventually. Right now I am just trying to catch up on stock for the next gunshow.
    Our house is protected by the Good Lord and a gun and you might meet them both if you show up here not welcome son!

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    Thanks kweidner your post has convinced me 100% to go with the breville.
    Seems like it should eliminate one of the variables, following this thread from the start it seems most problems are related to temp and time.

    Next job is to see what price the local bloke can sell me a breville for.

    Looks like I will have another mould to play with over summer, wife has ordered a 360 180 RG4 from NOE as a Christmas present.

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    Lightbulb

    hi-tek-500 mold lube release on my NOE mold. Running RCBS pro-melt furnace. The HT-500 is really a great difference and not old brown burnt on stuff we use to use. Its white stuff. I love it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUoggFh6ras

    GLAD YOUR HERE TO HELP SULLA!

    I started this thread so i could listen/read from pros and learn. And iam learning. I put pics and videos up for new people like me. Pictures worth a thousand words. Or "monkey see monkey doo". hehehe
    Last edited by gunoil; 11-21-2013 at 09:54 AM.

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    hi-tek-500 mold lube release is that stuff conductive like LLA?
    Whatever!

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    Jesus, Gunslick. Were you going slow for the camera or is that your normal casting speed???

    Popper. What do you mean by "Conductive" It is a slippery dry film that is slicker than goose schit.

    Is LLA Lee Liquid Alox? I have never used the wombat snot. when I buy a Lee sizer die, the bottle of Wombat snot gets given away.

    Sulla. Good to have you here, Mate.
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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