simple Hi-Tek coating

[MDC]

I'm a little behind the curve on Hi Tek so this may have been discussed previously, can I mix the powders?
If I mix the k15 with some of the bronze I have, would it be similar to the Texas Tea?

[Ausglock]

Where can I get these colors in the US?

hi-performancebulletcoatings.com only has a handful of colors, and only in the powders. I can find the liquid anywhere in the US, and the color selection is mostly small.

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You will find that the powdered Hitek replaced the Liquid Hitek.
The powdered version is easier to mix and less messy to handle.
It is also safe to mail as it is NOT a dangerous goods article.

[Ausglock]

I'm a little behind the curve on Hi Tek so this may have been discussed previously, can I mix the powders?
If I mix the k15 with some of the bronze I have, would it be similar to the Texas Tea?

Mixing colours is not that straight forward.
I have been mixing them for 7 years and the results vary....but they still work as intended.

[Petander]

Mixing colours is not that straight forward.
I have been mixing them for 7 years and the results vary....but they still work as intended.

I mix them as liquids,not powders. Fun, sometimes unpredictable results.

Here is 40% Tru Blue / 60% New TMG Gold. A hot 44 mag load from last winter hitting snow. Adhesion is not perfect, some scratches, but these shoot fine and do not lead more than a 22 LR.

This is my favorite green now.

[Tazza]

K15 is very dark black, it works very well for me, very good choice. No matter how hard i tr, i can't over cook them and make them too dark

[dikman]

No matter how hard i tr, i can't over cook them and make them too dark

The perfect colour! Ideal for the beginner.

[Joe504]

Yall making me jealous I cant get these colors in the US.

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[HI-TEK]

Yall making me jealous I cant get these colors in the US.

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You should be able to get these below colors in the US, just contact Donnie at Hi-Performancebulletcoating LLC
Black (standard Old Black) Black K-15, Texas Tea, (Black with Golden Metallic), Gunmetal, (very dark Green Grey), Bonze 500, Bronze 502, Bronze 530, Red Copper, Blush Red Copper, Red 254, Red 122, Kryptonite Green, Zombie Green, Dark Green metallic, TruBlue, Black Cherry, Old Gold, Gold 1035, Aztec Gold, Desert Sand (Tan Yellow), Candy Apple, (Red with Gold Glitter), Burnt Orange,
The old gold is probably my favorite, it has a rich metallic gold appearance.

[Stephen Cohen]

Joe, I don't know why it is but the best groups I have ever fired were with the old Gold Coating, I also enjoyed the look on faces when I was asked how I cast brass bullets, my answer, a bloody hot mould. I also love the Candy red it seems to be the smoothest and most shiny coating. Regards Stephen

[Avenger442]

Best groups I have fired are with a gold, too. The 1035 Gold in my .308. May have to try the Old Gold to see if I can tighten them up.



Best at 100 yards four shots under 1/2" whith flyer making it a 1" group 1035 Gold.



Usual groups with 1035 are around 1 1/4" to 1 1/2" at 100 yards.

[Stephen Cohen]

Best groups I have fired are with a gold, too. The 1035 Gold in my .308. May have to try the Old Gold to see if I can tighten them up.



Best at 100 yards four shots under 1/2" whith flyer making it a 1" group 1035 Gold.



Usual groups with 1035 are around 1 1/4" to 1 1/2" at 100 yards.

That is a wonderful group and a shame about that flyer. Regards Stephen

[RydForLyf]

This thread is starting to sound like “red cars are faster, just because.” Hopefully we can get some solid experiments, or Joe better start whipping up a whole lot of gold hi-tek..

[HI-TEK]

[QUOTE=Avenger442;5000730]Best groups I have fired are with a gold, too. The 1035 Gold in my .308. May have to try the Old Gold to see if I can tighten them up.


Avenger & RydForLyf
It seems some folk must have already had used or tried the Old Gold in US as Donnie had ordered this product recently, and also some of the Gold1035.
I can only think that results would have been OK for people that had used it..

[RydForLyf]

We need data, groups with different colors. Which color shoots the best group? Shouldn’t make a difference, but some are saying the gold is magic.

[HI-TEK]

We need data, groups with different colors. Which color shoots the best group? Shouldn’t make a difference, but some are saying the gold is magic.

Well,.... this sounds like a great project for you possibly. I have never seen any of the coatings being directly compared with a specific gun, to determine if any differences are noted at all. In theory, all should work equally, but due to many gun variations/configurations/bore type, rifling & loads, there is a great deal of variability. I can only envisage that several are tested in a gun, then, use different ammo in another gun with same coatings. Then, you may be able to say, that X worked with this gun, and Y worked with the other gun, or, found no differences between all coated casts.

[Ausglock]

This colour V colour is bullswaddle.
Sizing, alloy BHN, shape, powder, primer, case, load density and headspace affect accuracy more than colour of the coating.

Cast, coat, load, shoot, enjoy, repeat

[RydForLyf]

I appreciate the suggestion of a research project, but right now my plate is too full. The only conclusion I can provide is that in my testing, no Hi-Tek color can overcome improper sight alignment and a lack of trigger control. ��

[Avenger442]

Let me clarify something. The comment I made about tightening up groups with Old Gold was more tongue in cheek than it sounded. And I didn't mean to suggest that one color was more accurate than another. 1035 Gold was just the first color I tried and I stuck with it. I've used 1035 Black, as per label on powder, in the the 45-70 with a hollow based bullet and good accuracy. Groups with another bullet about the same weight in that gun also coated in 1035 Black were not as accurate. That batch of my coating, by the way, seems to leave a little color on the wipe test no matter how long or hot you bake it. But it is black bake it to your hearts delight you can't ruin the color.

So like Trevor said "Sizing, alloy BHN, shape, powder, primer, case, load density and headspace affect accuracy more than color of the coating." I would add the obvious consistency in all of the measurements and operations of loading. I have changed, slightly, some things like crimp or trim or modifications of the case and lost accuracy in loads in the same rifle. So consistency when you find that load in that rifle is also a factor. And would add to that the metallic coatings probably have some difference in the accuracy of a rifle load than the non-metallic coating due to the heat reflecting property. I'm not sure that would show up in a handgun load at normal distances.

And before someone ask, I don't have the time to run test either. I even have trouble coating. I've got one of my experiments, a bullet, for my .308 that has been sitting on my bench for months uncoated. Another 10 pounds of bullets also sitting there uncoated. Part of the problem is just not taking the time. It is a hobby for me after all. But we have had our share of things lately that just take time away from the hobbies.

[dikman]

But we have had our share of things lately that just take time away from the hobbies.

Aint that the truth! Buggering up an ankle puts a stop to virtually everything! No casting, coating, reloading, shooting, working in the shed, making things.....the list is long.

[Burnt Fingers]

Donnie's stock has been quite low since this Covid hit.

I'm sure he wants to get everything back in stock as much as any of us.