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    Those look great !
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    So how much of an over-bore can this take without damage to the coating? My molds are .358-.359 droppers due to my last 9mm having a large bore, and unexpectedly I've moved to platforms that both slug a smudge over .355.

    Would shooting as-cast diameter with 2-3 coats be enough to damage the coating as it goes down the bore (3 thou over) and result in leading? Or is the consensus to size down to .357 and do a final coat?
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    My molds drop at .361
    Coat twice at this and size down to .356 with no issues.
    Just make sure you use the HITEK Aqua 500 sizing lube.

    Or coat once. Size and do the second coat after sizing.
    Hooroo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    My molds drop at .361
    Coat twice at this and size down to .356 with no issues.
    Just make sure you use the HITEK Aqua 500 sizing lube.

    Or coat once. Size and do the second coat after sizing.
    You can use the 500+ as sizing lube, but it is not Water based and more expensive..
    The sizing lube is the Aqualube 5000 product.

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    I knew it was one or the other.
    Hows about renaming them to something with different numbers?
    500 and 5000 is just too similar.
    Hooroo.
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    I was wondering about those numbers Joe. Did it take 500 tries to come up with the 500+ and 5000 tries to come up with the 5000?

    I think it took Edison 10,000 tries to get the light bulb right. So you must be doing something right.
    While I work at it, it is by God's grace that it happens. So it is best I ask him what, how and when before I start..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeep45238 View Post
    So how much of an over-bore can this take without damage to the coating? My molds are .358-.359 droppers due to my last 9mm having a large bore, and unexpectedly I've moved to platforms that both slug a smudge over .355.

    Would shooting as-cast diameter with 2-3 coats be enough to damage the coating as it goes down the bore (3 thou over) and result in leading? Or is the consensus to size down to .357 and do a final coat?
    My 92 slugs @ 356.4
    Wifes 1911 slugs @ 355.1
    moul drops @359 to 360 depending on BHN
    I coat once and size to 358, then recoat and throw the casts into containers for storage. I cast RN FN and conical.
    Now on the day of reloading I resize either to 359 just to polish the second coat for the Beretta, or I resize to 356 if I am loading for the 1911.

    Using this method I have had Zero leading in either gun over 3 years of shooting. Neither the older Wet system HiTec or the newer powder form HiTec have given me problems.
    Some of the casts have been stored for 3+ years and still function perfectly.
    I have a habit of "burst" casting. I cast 3-4 weeks in winter and make enough for the entire year. I start with my fancy $10 iron pot, the $1 SS ladle, 3 piles of materials one WW ingots one 20% antimony ingot and a pile of pure tin ingots. Mixing to 94-4-2, and rotating 2 molds at a time , it dos'nt take long to end up with a few buckets full of casts.

    To be totally honest , I cannot remember the last time I did a smash/wipe test.

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    "I cannot remember the last time I did a smash/wipe test."

    I can't remember the last time I did a smash test either but it may have been only a couple days ago getting old really sucks.

    I am about to have my 20th annual 47th birthday.

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    I've about decided to stop having birthdays. Seems like a complete "waste of time" to me. If it wasn't for people believing I should get cake and gifts the decision would have already been made.

    I did my last wipe and smash test 3/17/17 at 3:30 PM. Yeah, I'm 66 and still remember what I did five days ago.

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    I was in Missouri last year. Do you guys have elk there? I could have sworn that there were some in a field as I was going to Branson.
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    I got a buddy who wants me to coat some bullets for him. He brought me 500 swc bullets out of a Lee mold, these are not the tumble lube design. Evidently, he cast them too hot. They are frosted pretty good. Is this going to affect the way the coating comes out? He really likes the gold color. Any suggestions?
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    I missed a step in my post above.

    After casting I tumble the casts 250 at a time in a closed square box @ 50rpm for around 2-3 minutes. This knocks any flashing off the casts and tidies up the casts a lot.

    Slide - Coating frosted casts works just fine.
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    What Grem said. frosted works 100% fine.

    You are now a commercial coater. Congrats...
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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    Do I get a diploma or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slide View Post
    Do I get a diploma or something?

    You are now granted with being, lord of Hi-Tek, and Consular of Hi-Tek religion...lol...lol
    I cant give you an appropriate certificate.... sorry....

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    Quote Originally Posted by slide View Post
    Do I get a diploma or something?
    No but now you get to have the fanciest fingernail polish in the street!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin460 View Post
    No but now you get to have the fanciest fingernail polish in the street!!!
    Wait until he sees the glow in the dark coatings, (well I hope that I can perfect them. I am trying......)

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    Gentlemen, I am honored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger442 View Post
    I've about decided to stop having birthdays. Seems like a complete "waste of time" to me. If it wasn't for people believing I should get cake and gifts the decision would have already been made.

    I did my last wipe and smash test 3/17/17 at 3:30 PM. Yeah, I'm 66 and still remember what I did five days ago.

    ioon44:
    I was in Missouri last year. Do you guys have elk there? I could have sworn that there were some in a field as I was going to Branson.
    Yes, the conservation department is bringing in elk and some private land owners also. If you get back in Missouri let me know and I will buy a cup of coffee.

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    Shot the blackout with 2/3/95 alloy water dropped after coating (has anyone tested to see how much hardness this adds?????)
    tiny bit of leading at the muzzle after 30 rounds.
    Chased it with some very hard 180s lubed and checked that a buddy made and the barrel was pretty much totally shiny after that.
    Guess hard alloy is the way to go. Next batch will be harder for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ioon44 View Post
    Yes, the conservation department is bringing in elk and some private land owners also. If you get back in Missouri let me know and I will buy a cup of coffee.
    Will do. We were there to tour Branson and look at College of the Ozarks for our granddaughters. May go back over that way some day. Your down near Springfield right?
    While I work at it, it is by God's grace that it happens. So it is best I ask him what, how and when before I start..

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